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White Tiger
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Dallas
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Is it possible that LSU just does not have that much talent?Lack of development? Both?

The O-line is poor. RBs are below average. LBs will a single one be drafted? It looks like an average, at best, team talent wise. Add horrible coaching to that and you end up with a losing record. All of this, 100%, is due to Ed Orgeron and those who enabled him.



ShaneTheMaster
LSU Fan
Tampa, FL
Member since Nov 2009
2303 posts

Yea, it’s possible. Who is at fault?


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fallguy_1978
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Half mile from St George
Member since Feb 2018
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A lot of our highly rated classes weren't very balanced.


Broyota2
USA Fan
Member since Nov 2010
11329 posts

Pretty sure half of our recruiting classes from the past 2 years aren't even with the team anymore.


fjlee90
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
6127 posts

Lack of talent?

Yes. LSU has whiffed on a lot of OL/DL recruits.

Lack of development?

Yes. We have a shitty head coach.


Tigersfan3000
Member since Nov 2020
179 posts

Lsu is not developing talent. That’s the issue. We are constantly raking in top 5 recruiting classes with the GA,Alabama, Clemson, Ohio States of the world. Those teams are constantly in the playoffs or a threat to make the playoffs. Sadly we’ve only had one appearance in our lighting in a bottle year.


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KiwiHead
LSU Fan
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
18380 posts

There is talent on this team, just not where you need it. Skill players without the accompanying big ugliest just cannot cut it. We should have guys camped out in Big 10 and Big 12 country looking for linemen.


Damone
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FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
23829 posts

Ed isn't good at identifying talent or coaching it up.


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NorthEndZone
LSU Fan
Member since Dec 2008
8387 posts

Don't know the cause, but there are currently only 5 starters that would be certain starters on the best teams in the SEC (Alabama, Georgia) and two are specialists.

York
Atkins (kickoffs)
Stingley (when healthy)
Ricks
Boutte

The players are trying their best. It is not an effort problem. The problem is either talent, development, preparation, or a combination or those.
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js1591
Member since Jan 2020
1576 posts

Yes


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saturncube21
Member since Nov 2015
3922 posts

It was very apparent on Saturday that LSU has a lot of talent


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White Tiger
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Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
9434 posts

O-line has been a chronic problem. 2019 has, I think, three guys in the league, but will anyone from the current line even make an NFL practice squad? At one point I thought Ed Ingram would be drafted for sure, but he is not playing well at all.



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White Tiger
LSU Fan
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
9434 posts

It makes one wonder about class ratings, but the ratings seem to work out well for, say, the gumps. I do not thing Orgeron can recruit in the context of overall roster management or in retaining players that should stay another year. He is just not very good at much of anything.



fallguy_1978
LSU Fan
Half mile from St George
Member since Feb 2018
37670 posts

Yeah you can have a top 5 class in the rankings and not really address the needs of the team.


beardkp
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AggyLand
Member since Feb 2013
679 posts

The talent thing is real. Not everywhere / every position but there's merit to it. That we had to bring in CBs Evans and cage from shite in state schools and for them to see the field is a HUGE talent red flag. That Liam Shan had to be brought in from harvard and is still our center. That we've brought in transfer LBs for 2 years now and they play significant time. That vaunted top OL recruit Kardell Thomas cant even see the field in THIS OL.... oof

The talent question is very valid.
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LSUStar
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Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
8389 posts

I think the roster is weak AND Orgeron cannot develop anything outside of a boner for hoochy hoes.


White Tiger
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Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
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Greatness.



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BIG CAT
LSU Fan
louisiana
Member since Jan 2005
3234 posts

bingo, been saying this for a while. our players do not get any better. look at bama lineman they are huge, our lineman should be making tv spots for krispy cream


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Purple Spoon
Duke Fan
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
15290 posts

You can’t guarantee every recruit will pan out. But the number or kids the have left the program or not developed is something that has to be addressed.


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AndrewD
LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2013
583 posts

2019 4 star and up recruits

Derek Stingley (out - injured)
John Emery Jr. (academically ineligible)
Marcel Brooks (transferred)
Kardell Thomas (hasn't played yet)
Trey Palmer
Maurice Hampton (transferred)
Siaki Ika (transferred)
Ray Parker (arrested/dismissed?)
Devonta Lee
Peter Parrish (expelled)
Raydarious Jones (hasn't played yet?)

... definitely an issue. 4 and 5 star recruits not making it to the field past their freshman year.
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