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re: Is it possible for LSU to make the Sugar Bowl?
Posted on 11/25/13 at 4:53 pm to TX Tiger
Posted on 11/25/13 at 4:53 pm to TX Tiger
quote:
LSU destroys Arkansas
Alabama destroys Auburn
Missouri destroys A&M
Alabama destroys Missouri
Orange Bowl picks a team not named UCF or Fresno St/NIU.
This scenario can be modified. A&M could beat Missouri and South Carolina could lose to Clempson for instance.
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Posted on 11/25/13 at 4:56 pm to therick711
quote:This is LSU's biggest ally. The Sugar Bowl wants to sell tickets. UCF/Fresno/NIU won't do it. Neither would Auburn or Mizzou, relative to what LSU would sell.
the selection show down which the conference will inevitably be thrusting its nasty hands in.
Posted on 11/25/13 at 5:00 pm to therick711
quote:I'm afraid the Sugar might take A&M in that case....for the same reasons it would take LSU otherwise - ticket sales.
LSU destroys Arkansas
Alabama destroys Auburn
Missouri destroys A&M
Alabama destroys Missouri
Orange Bowl picks a team not named UCF or Fresno St/NIU.
This scenario can be modified. A&M could beat Missouri
Posted on 11/25/13 at 5:05 pm to TX Tiger
quote:
I'm afraid the Sugar might take A&M in that case
It is unlikely that A&M could make it into the top 14. It would have to do battle with LSU in the next tier for that to be a likely scenario. Here are the BCS rankings to show you the issue that Aggy faces to get in to the conversation. Simply put, their deificit is too much without an LSU loss that would eliminate LSU anyway.
1 Alabama .9881
2 Florida State .9697
3 Ohio State .9200
4 Auburn .8236
5 Missouri .8077
6 Clemson .7726
7 Oklahoma State .7615
8 Stanford .6665
9 Baylor .6456
10 South Carolina .6101
11 Michigan State .5780
12 Arizona State .5052
13 Oregon .4950
14 Northern Illinois .4620
15 Wisconsin .4448
16 Fresno State .4124
17 LSU .3737
18 Oklahoma .3380
19 UCF .3364
20 Louisville .2522
21 Texas A&M .2243
22 UCLA .1921
23 USC .1779
24 Duke .0885
25 Notre Dame .0674
Posted on 11/25/13 at 5:15 pm to therick711
the only reason ESPN is saying we can be "in line" for the Sugar Bowl is because they are expecting us to win against Arkansas and they are expecting Alabama to go to the BCSNCG...
even in that scenario, I still see whoever loses in the SECCG to get a call from the Sugar Bowl committee because don't they normally take the SEC Runner-Up in the event the SEC Champ goes to play for the NC?
someone clarify if I'm wrong or if I'm on point...
I'd love to play in the Sugar Bowl in our backyard but I don't see it being very likely.
even in that scenario, I still see whoever loses in the SECCG to get a call from the Sugar Bowl committee because don't they normally take the SEC Runner-Up in the event the SEC Champ goes to play for the NC?
someone clarify if I'm wrong or if I'm on point...
I'd love to play in the Sugar Bowl in our backyard but I don't see it being very likely.
Posted on 11/25/13 at 5:19 pm to TigerB8
quote:
LSU is 3rd in the western division. Not sure how this would be possible.
We were 3rd in the division in 2006 as well.
Sugar is unlikely but possible. We need to destroy Ar Kansas and have some dominoes go "our" way for it to happen. I quote our because I dont think its in our long term interests for Bama to destroy auburn on route to a 3rd straight BCS CG which would be necessary for us to have a shot at the Sugar. I say let Auburn win and be happy with the cotton.
Posted on 11/25/13 at 5:33 pm to therick711
quote:If A&M beats No. 5 Missouri, they could move into the top 14 by the time all the conference championship games are played.
It is unlikely that A&M could make it into the top 14. It would have to do battle with LSU in the next tier for that to be a likely scenario. Here are the BCS rankings to show you the issue that Aggy faces to get in to the conversation. Simply put, their deificit is too much without an LSU loss that would eliminate LSU anyway.
1 Alabama .9881
2 Florida State .9697
3 Ohio State .9200
4 Auburn .8236
5 Missouri .8077
6 Clemson .7726
7 Oklahoma State .7615
8 Stanford .6665
9 Baylor .6456
10 South Carolina .6101
11 Michigan State .5780
12 Arizona State .5052
13 Oregon .4950
14 Northern Illinois .4620
15 Wisconsin .4448
16 Fresno State .4124
17 LSU .3737
18 Oklahoma .3380
19 UCF .3364
20 Louisville .2522
21 Texas A&M .2243
22 UCLA .1921
23 USC .1779
24 Duke .0885
25 Notre Dame .0674
Posted on 11/25/13 at 5:34 pm to WackyChris
quote:
because don't they normally take the SEC Runner-Up in the event the SEC Champ goes to play for the NC?
nope only twice in the past 10 years has the Sugar taken the SEC team that lost in the SEC championship game.
Posted on 11/25/13 at 5:45 pm to Tiger Stadium 11
UCF will get auto bid from American. If NIU or Fresno are ahead of American winner in BCS, they get an auto bid, too.
Bama/FSU
Auburn/Oklahoma St
ASUorStan/Ohio St
Clemson/Wisky
NIUorFres/UCF
No room at the inn for LSU or A&M.
Bama/FSU
Auburn/Oklahoma St
ASUorStan/Ohio St
Clemson/Wisky
NIUorFres/UCF
No room at the inn for LSU or A&M.
Posted on 11/25/13 at 5:49 pm to WackyChris
In Les' first year we lost in the SECCG and dropped all the way to the Chicken Bowl. So I don't think the runner up would necessarily go to the Sugar Bowl. Especially if it's a SC team that has lost to Clemson.
Posted on 11/25/13 at 5:54 pm to monceaux
quote:
Bama/FSU
Auburn/Oklahoma St
ASUorStan/Ohio St
Clemson/Wisky
NIUorFres/UCF -Sugar
the way LSU gets into the inn is if UCF or NIU/Fres go where you have Auburn, and the Sugar takes LSU for ticket sales playing UCF or NIU/Fres. Auburn needs to get stomped though for them to fall enough for us to have a shot.
Posted on 11/25/13 at 5:58 pm to lee2499
I'm prob wrong but I've been thinking there's still a small shot. I'd think if Mizzou loses to aTm, if Bama wins the SECCG, and if SC loses to Clemson, why not? LSU should be more attractive than an AU that loses to Bama.
Posted on 11/25/13 at 6:37 pm to Tiger Stadium 11
quote:
the SEC champ loser playing in the Sugar is uncommon
This it just doesn't happen often. And the only reason it happened twice is because both teams were undefeated going into the sec championship game
Posted on 11/25/13 at 6:45 pm to lee2499
That will b a stretch more like the cotton bowl
Posted on 11/25/13 at 6:50 pm to lee2499
Why not? LSU dominated Auburn and look how they beat Georgia. Auburn is not as good as they are ranked, they lose to Alabama easily.
Posted on 11/25/13 at 6:51 pm to lee2499
LSU is gonna win the Sugar Bowl. There is also a chance we play in the National Championship
This post was edited on 11/25/13 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 11/25/13 at 7:24 pm to lee2499
Posted on 11/25/13 at 7:31 pm to TigerB8
quote:
LSU is 3rd in the western division. Not sure how this would be possible.
I once saw a team who was 2nd in the west go to the natl championship.
True story.
Posted on 11/25/13 at 7:50 pm to lee2499
Assuming Alabama beats Auburn, Auburn is going to the Sugar Bowl. If Auburn beats Alabama, then AU/Mizzou/USCe is going to the Sugar Bowl.
Posted on 11/25/13 at 7:56 pm to lee2499
Loss to ole miss ruins this plus several other bowl possibilities.
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