re: Is it arrogance or confidence that Coach Orgeron possesses

You have a lot of down votes, but I'm curious to know as well. The only thing I can think of is hiring power and O has hit a grand slam in that category.

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If O was hired by any other big six SEC team everyone here would be laughing about what a terrible hire it was

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Let's say Coach O took over Arkansas as IHC after the fourth game of the season, okay? During the season he had the staff that helped get the former coach fired pretty much intact except the OC had also been fired and O had a TE's coach running the Arkansas offense.

Now Arkansas then comes to Tiger stadium and beats LSU 38-10. Would you be laughing at Arkansas for hiring Coach O? What if he fired 3 more coaches after the season and hired the only Broyles Award finalist on the offensive side of the ball to run the Arkansas offense? Would you be still be laughing at Ark for hiring O?

After he put 38 points on LSU at LSU with a TE's coach, he hires a Broyles award candidate to put more points on the Tigers. Would you be laughing? Yeah, that's pretty damn funny.

Let's see who isn't laughing at LSU hiring Coach O - Missouri(42-7), Ole Miss(38-21), Arkansas(38-10) and A&M(54-39). I really doubt Alabama, Auburn or Florida are throwing parties to celebrate either.

They are probably watching film right now trying to figure out how to try to slow down Matt Canada's offense. They know they aren't going to stop it they can only hope to slow it down.

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If Nick Saban were the coach at LSU, there would be a pocket of fans that made sure we all knew how awful he was and how these said fans knew more football than that guy.

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People forget 2004.

Our fan base turned on Saban after the first loss. Ready for him to just skip town after the second.

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I don't see how anyone could have looked at the coaches that were available, know that LSU is a top 10 job and think O was the best hire we could have made. That's just stupid.

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What's stupid is crying about the past and about hiring coach O after the changes he has made in the short time he has been HC at LSU.

Are there any moves that warrant your tears that you want to discuss? Which is the worst one? The second worst move he's made?

There has to be some or you wouldn't be in this thread bitching about LSU hiring him. What are they? Why should I be miserable like you?

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You're an idiot. That was Guice's fault. Quit trying to pass the blame.

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You think the RB's coach has no responsibility what-so-ever for the RB hitting the wrong hole? And you think I'm an idiot? Rantards are really delivering tonight.

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I love Guice as much as anyone, but he fricked that up. Not a RB coach

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You do realize the RB coach is on the field during the game and not the coaches box? Right? He is on the field for a reason. CLM's ex RB coach now resides in Lubbock Texas for a reason and believe me it is very justified.

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How bout you let the season at least start before you decide it's going to be awful and the coach is crap

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It's the ranter way. Acute catastrophe syndrome and extreme pessimism are the only things that keeps these people going.

You can't convince a miserable person to be happy if they only know how to be miserable or just enjoy being miserable.

Bill Belichick was fired from the Cleveland Browns and widely considered a terrible head coach. (Ole Miss the Cleveland Browns of College Football)

Learned from his mistakes and now he is widely considered the best coach ever.

I choose to be optimistic, especially with the way Coach O got a floundering USC and LSU to finish strong.

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Are you cheering for us or not, Broski? Yes or no. Do not wait for the translation!!!!

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Yes, I'm cheering for LSU, just like I was cheering for LSU under Miles even though it was well past time for him to go.

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for starters it's not his players or system

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That's the same for any coach who gets hired at a program. That is not a difference between an IHC and a permanent coach. Coach O fired Cam Cameron, hired Pete Jenkins and promoted Dennis Johnson at LSU. It wasn't entirely his staff but he was making it that way from day 1.

This also is an example of how impressive Coach O's run has been. He took over not one but two programs on losing skids, fired HC's and turned them into winners that finished ranked at the end of the season. The only coach ever to take over two programs during the season after the regular HC's had been fired to be able to do that.

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Secondly when it's his program his duties go beyond the playing field in dealing with boosters and media

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He did coaches shows at LSU last year. He had the boosters support at USC including former player and Heisman winner - Marcus Allen. You didn't read the LSU fans on this board talking about how refreshing it was to get a straight answer during the coaches shows last year. That was Coach O.

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An interim coach is just that, an interim coach

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And he runs the program just like he would if he wasn't an interim. Coach O fired, hired, promoted, made changes to on-campus recruiting, changes to practices, changes to the Tiger Walk among many others.

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Not nearly as much pressure or headaches to deal with.

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If the guy is going to retire at the end of the current season and has no desire to become the permanent head coach for the team, then yes probably not much pressure. If he wants to improve the team (like Coach O did), have a winning record (like Coach O did), have the team play better (like Coach O did), etc, etc, etc - then there is probably just as much pressure to retain his current job as HC than the guy who was previously let go for not being able to do any of the above.

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How can you not think there is a big difference?

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Because there is no difference at all between the two. The IHC does not go on vacation for the rest of the football season once he takes and let others run the program including player discipline.

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If there wasn't such a difference don't you think USC would have hired him??

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The only reason USC did not hire Coach O as their permanent head coach was because of Pat Haden. Pat Haden is no longer at USC.

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Normally a hiring is met with excitement for a new era, but there doesn't seem to be any joy trickling out from Troy today (there was certainly joy, however, on the internet -- at least among non-USC fans).

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Keep getting calls from Dan Weber and he says the mood around #USC is like a funeral.

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As he was leaving Dan Weber asked Pat Haden "How's it going" and he responded, "I've had better days

HAT'S THE ATHLETIC DIRECTOR. THAT'S THE GUY WHO MADE THE HIRE - Sarkesian hire

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To be fair, the glum mood seems not to come from any pre-existing feelings about Sarkisian, but rather the resignation of Ed Orgeron

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How hard will Sark's job be? Players openly crying after Orgeron's departure.

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players were instructed to not comment on coaching situation. Some left meeting with visible tear marks.

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It got worse when the players got to Twitter:

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(Note: this is not including the semi-breakdown suffered by an LA Daily News reporter.)

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But their fans are excited about the move, right? Let's take a peek in the comments section at our USC blog,

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So let's summarize: USC players are acting like a parent just died. Their fans are mad. Coaches of other teams are popping bottles. And fans of other teams are laughing their asses off.

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https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/12/3/5168222/steve-sarkisian-usc-coaching-search-ed-orgeron-reaction

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The fan support for USC interim coach Ed Orgeron has not been lost on Trojans' athletic director Pat Haden. In fact, it's almost too much for Haden to handle.

On Tuesday night, Haden told "Trojans Live" on Los Angeles' KFWB that he has been flooded with support for Orgeron.

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Marcus Allen, other ex-USC stars like what they see from Ed Orgeron

Heisman Trophy winner Marcus Allen says interim Coach Ed Orgeron should get USC job. Ronnie Lott, Anthony Munoz give positive reviews too.

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https://articles.latimes.com/2013/nov/24/sports/la-sp-1125-usc-orgeron-20131125

Coach O has already had Munoz around the LSU program.

Anyway, the only idiot that didn't want Coach O at USC was Pat Haden. Pat Haden is no longer at USC. If he had hired CEO he would still be there.

Apparently, the only people that don't like Coach O as a HC are Pat Haden and a few vocal idiot LSU internet posters.

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I think "O" will prove you wrong

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I hope that is the case... but as things stand right now, I think he has a better chance of producing Miles-like results than having this team compete for championships again.

My opinion can change though.