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re: Is Coach O a security blanket for CBK?
Posted on 8/23/25 at 3:31 pm to BiggaGeauxrilla
Posted on 8/23/25 at 3:31 pm to BiggaGeauxrilla
John Gruden wants to coach in the SEC . Certainly eorth exploring .
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Posted on 8/23/25 at 3:34 pm to Zippydog
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John Gruden wants to coach in the SEC . Certainly eorth exploring .
No it’s not. We don’t need the fricking Belicheck-style circus here for a washed up former NFL guy.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 3:43 pm to homemadeshine
You've put a lot of thought into it, but I just don't even see the need for the debate right now. Keep hearing everybody say cbk has to go to the playoff this year or else. Or else what? If we go 9 and 3, miss the playoffs, he's still not going anywhere. I honestly believe he's safe for a few more years unless he literally goes O on us and starts having 500 seasons. Just too much money. And with the high school and portal classes he keeps bringing in I don't see him going 500. Not to mention that while you're paying him off you're taking a gamble on a new coach that could very well do worse. Look at all of the people LSU was wanting to hire over Brian Kelly 4 years ago. Most of them have already lost their jobs or are close to it. It's just not as cheap to fire and easy to find a winner as everybody thinks. If Elite coaches grew on trees everybody would have one. I'm not sure if BK can win a National championship. I think it's at least a possibility. But I think his floor is a lot higher than a lot of other people we would take a gamble on right now
Posted on 8/23/25 at 6:09 pm to JiminyCricket
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It’s really not. Brian Kelly is the 8th highest paid coach. It’s not like he’s the far and away highest paid coach.
If you want a top level coach, you have to pay the toll.
What was his rank when he was hired? What has he accomplished since he's been here? I would think the pay scale would be:
1. NC winner
2. NC loser
3. Semi-final game loser
4. Top 4 conference winner
There's probable more that 8 active coaches that have achieved one of those over the last 5 years.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 6:35 pm to SulphursFinest
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The best job in the country is being a failed college football coach
There’s a whole lot of failures out there if this is your logic…
Posted on 8/23/25 at 6:38 pm to geauxbrown
Don’t know about that. I’m not a Kelly simp but what would be best is him getting over the hump, not replacing him. A lot of the new generation of coaches haven’t proven anything, even being able to have any sustained success which Kelly at least has shown. His problem is he’s stubborn and hasn’t shown a willingness to change so that he can finally get past that final hurdle but he’s closer to it than taking a gamble on someone else unless you could pull a sure thing out of retirement because there are none currently out there.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 6:45 pm to DemonKA3268
How is it not? Guaranteed money you don’t even have to win.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 7:06 pm to SulphursFinest
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How is it not? Guaranteed money you don’t even have to win.
Like I said, a whole lotta failures out there. It’s like being a weather man.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 7:08 pm to Gus007
quote:are you living under a fricking rock? He was 77 MM and then bought the highest RS ned class in history. The funny part is NONE of what you posted can remotely be compared as BOTH Fat arse Boat Captain and Dumbeaux didn’t compete in today’s market. Apples and oranges. Fact is LSU was middle of the pack in the SEC in spending Kelly’s first 3 years. FINALLY, this season he was able to spend.
Jimbo
Posted on 8/23/25 at 7:27 pm to DemonKA3268
Except you don’t get fired and paid millions as a weather man
So it’s nothing like being a weatherman
So it’s nothing like being a weatherman
This post was edited on 8/23/25 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 8/23/25 at 7:29 pm to homemadeshine
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know some will say LSU has plenty of money
Lol we don't
Posted on 8/23/25 at 7:32 pm to idlewatcher
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Tell me what you “love” about him
Apparently, you have a short memory. CBK took over a major shite show! We went from being NCs to being the laughing stock of college football. We went from the top team in the nation to everybody's favorite homecoming opponent! We lost by three TDs to Kentucky in football, not basketball. We were a joke of a team. O hired Pelini without even interviewing him, brought women to practices and, of course, we can't forget the blonde he showed up with in his final press conference after agreeing to a 17M buyout.
Yep, CBK was walking into a colossal nightmare and I feel has brought us back to respectability and that's not an easy task. I could understand CBK getting blasted had he inherited the same roster DeBoer got when he took over Alabama, but we all know that was not the case!
Posted on 8/23/25 at 7:37 pm to Madking
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Don’t know about that.
You’re no doubt correct. I just have a hard time believing in the man. I just don’t see a passion to play for him from his players. Of course my only evidence for that is a lack of physicality. His teams just don’t look like the teams of Miles.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 8:13 pm to geauxbrown
I don’t disagree with your assessment and I could go on about the problems we’ve had under Kelly. I just think there’s so much downside to firing him it isn’t worth the risk.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 9:19 pm to Madking
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but what would be best is him getting over the hump, not replacing him. A lot of the new generation of coaches haven’t proven anything, even being able to have any sustained success which Kelly at least has shown. His problem is he’s stubborn and hasn’t shown a willingness to change so that he can finally get past that final hurdle but he’s closer to it
Agreed with part of this. Closer to a Natty than when he was hired, for sure.
We didn't handle the NIL right in early days and that hurt us tremendously with lack of talent.
BK screwed himself by not keeping C Raymond and a couple other coaches that he has since brought back and are doing good work.So in that respect I think he HAS shown change and a willingness to admit he was wrong (in some cases).
Answer this: who has a coach most likely to build sustained success, LSU or Alabama? I'll take LSU.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 9:28 pm to LongTime Tiger
Coin flip, DeBoer doesn’t have a long enough track record but he’s top 2 or 3 in win% vs top 10 opponents since he’s been coaching. Kelly’s been around since pre internet and has won a lot but has an incredibly poor record vs top teams.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 10:49 pm to Htxtiger17
quote:That seat will be vacated if the Tigers are not in the CFP this season!
That seat will be insanely hot if he’s not in the playoff or more
Time's Up. Shite or get off the Pot!.............
Posted on 8/24/25 at 2:14 pm to semjase
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That seat will be vacated if the Tigers are not in the CFP this season!
Time's Up. Shite or get off the Pot!.............
Dude, CBK has two 10-win seasons at LSU in just 3 years with a subpar roster, thanks to Coach O.
Do you know how many LSU HCs have had 10 win seasons since 1962?
Charlie McClendon - 0
Jerry Stovall - 0
Bill Arnsparger - 0
Mike Archer - 1
Curley Hallman - 0
Gerry DiNardo - 1
Nick Saban - 2
Les Miles - 5
Ed Orgeron - 2
CBK - 2 in three years!
So let's say he wins 9 games this season and misses the playoffs again.
Is it worth forking out 50-60M to get rid of CBK and then sign another 100M coach to replace him because that's the going rate?
Since 1962, only one coach has more than 2 10-wins seasons and CBK has accomplished that in just three years!
Posted on 8/24/25 at 2:22 pm to Madking
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hasn’t shown a willingness to change
Posted on 8/24/25 at 4:57 pm to misey94
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He hasn’t left the program broken down and smoldering in the ditch like your god, either.
Anyone know the number of players on the 22 team, beside Boutte and Jack Bech who made an NFL roster, that are still in the NFL?
This post was edited on 8/24/25 at 5:06 pm
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