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re: Is anyone a bit concerned about our hitting?

Posted on 5/13/13 at 8:42 am to
Posted by Brbengal
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 8:42 am to
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only good things about your post


...I think it was worth it!
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 8:49 am to
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You needed a double, a bunt single, a sac fly and a single and a walk to scratch one run in the eighth to win the game

No. We only needed the double, but single and sac fly to score a run. The other single and walk loaded up the bases and we couldn't get a 2 out hit to score more runs.

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If you get 17 hits, you need to have double-digit runs.

I love the BS arbitrary rules that people make up to try and act like they know what they are talking about.
Posted by Broham
Member since Feb 2005
19185 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 9:50 am to
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Hitting against above-average pitching - yes, concerning.

Hitting against below-average pitching has accounted for the BA being a little exaggerated imo.

Dumb
Posted by tadelatt
Buga Nation
Member since Jan 2010
12398 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 9:54 am to
on the road, in the sec, against a NCAA bubble team, that also has one of the top 5 pitchers in the sec, and defensively, they are pretty good.

That's WHY
Posted by LSUROXS
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
8703 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 10:07 am to
No, one game LSU had 17 hits. People get concerned when LSU is not blowing out teams. TAMU or any SEC team will be competitive. Especially when they play LSU because LSU is the measuring stick for most teams.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
38067 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 10:19 am to
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Hitting against above-average pitching - yes, concerning.

Hitting against below-average pitching has accounted for the BA being a little exaggerated imo.


Sit back and soak in what you have just stated here.

You are saying that we don't hit as well against good pitching as we do bad pitching? SHOCKING. We are probably the only team in America that has its average inflated due to hitting below average pitching.
This post was edited on 5/13/13 at 10:23 am
Posted by Westlakeguy10
La
Member since Jan 2012
2011 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 10:37 am to
Fwiw we have 6 players over 300 with at least 40 ABs.
Vandy has 8 hitters over 300 with at least 39* ABs
Posted by CourseyCorridor
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since May 2012
1996 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 12:33 pm to
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LSU has a big problem getting runners home from 3rd with less than 2 outs. That's a fact. They're just so good it hasn't hurt them very much.


I've always been of the opinion that, in the college game, you need to score at least a run for every two hits you get (and that would be mediocre), otherwise you aren't being efficient enough with your hit production.

This weekend, LSU had 10 runs on 30 hits. That's plenty of hits, but with that, they should score at least five more runs on the weekend. Really, with 30 hits, they should be producing at least 16 runs on the weekend.

When they have runners in scoring position, sometimes it looks like their hitters' mentality is where they are caught between being all-in on situational hitting or all-in in trying to drive the ball and deliver the big hit.

As a result, they don't deliver either consistently enough.

The runs in relation to hits have gone down significantly since Katz quit hitting home runs at an absurd clip.

Posted by LSUzealot
Napoleon and Magazine
Member since Sep 2003
57656 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 12:44 pm to
Can someone post our BA with Risp?

TIA

It's concerning if there is a huge discrepancy between the 2. We are late enough in the year for it to be a trend. So yes in Omaha when we can't afford to give up multiple chances, it's definitely a concern.
Posted by Tommy Patel
Member since Apr 2006
7558 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 1:32 pm to
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Please don't overreact to my question. I went to the game Saturday and the hitting was shaky against a 11-14, 26-22 team and their Friday pitcher only gave up 5 hits against us.


heard several players and coaches talk about the "low balls" and "curve balls" They're aware of it and are constantly working on specific batting situations. I did not know they have pitching machines that can be set to throw curve balls and other pitches....we will be fine.
Posted by tirebiter
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Member since Oct 2006
10998 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 2:04 pm to
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I've always been of the opinion that, in the college game, you need to score at least a run for every two hits you get (and that would be mediocre), otherwise you aren't being efficient enough with your hit production.


Barring walks/hpb that doesn't happen in today's games, even with decent speed on a roster. A team would have to put up ~ 6+ extra base hits per game to do what you are asking and most teams don't come close to doing that. Just think if Jones hadn't been on a rip the past few weeks displaying some power, rain or no rain. It wouldn't have killed Bregman to take a few first pitches with men on base this weekend, either, even when hitting .400+ at the time.
This post was edited on 5/13/13 at 2:06 pm
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
22759 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 2:12 pm to
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Can someone post our BA with Risp?


Overall
BA .310
BA w/ RISP .320

SEC games only
BA .298
BA w/ RISP .285
Posted by fisherbm1112
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
6573 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 2:28 pm to
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Need more timely hits and a few more balls hit into gaps with runners on base.






Since that is so easy to address. Baseball is baseball and the jackasses on this site seem to think entirely too much into it. Sometimes with baseball things go your way and other times they don't. We had a couple innings this weekend that ended on balls that were very well struck that either had a great catch made on them or it was a shift that just perfectly payed off. One of them was the pitcher that pulled a rabbit out of the hat on an inning that should have produced a few. Just let them play and if they are the better team that day they will win.
This post was edited on 5/13/13 at 2:46 pm
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 2:43 pm to
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hitting was shaky against a 11-14, 26-22 team


does not matter baseball. every game reflects how well the pitcher that night is.. and their ace was very acey that one game.

LSU is mashing the ball well. Especially with Rhymes and JaCoby on fire.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 2:44 pm to
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Fwiw we have 6 players over 300 with at least 40 ABs. Vandy has 8 hitters over 300 with at least 39* ABs


JaCoby is coming. His turn around is just beyond impressive.
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10998 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 3:39 pm to
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every game reflects how well the pitcher that night is


And how well the team plays defense during his start. Kicking the ball around a few times at untimely moments can ruin an otherwise great start.
Posted by CourseyCorridor
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since May 2012
1996 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 8:07 pm to
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Barring walks/hpb that doesn't happen in today's games, even with decent speed on a roster. A team would have to put up ~ 6+ extra base hits per game to do what you are asking and most teams don't come close to doing that.


According to the NCAA's 2012 stats, the average runs per game was about 5.4 runs per game. The average team batting average was .277, which, over the course of a 27-out game, equals between 10 and 11 hits a game.

That means the AVERAGE relationship between hits and runs is roughly 2:1, exactly what I opined.

So to do better than average -- say runs equaling about 60 percent of hits -- is far from asking too much.

NCAA trends
Posted by CourseyCorridor
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since May 2012
1996 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 8:11 pm to
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Baseball is baseball and the jackasses on this site seem to think entirely too much into


I don't disagree with this entirely. It may well even out in the wash. Katz can hit one in to the oil well this weekend after an error and two walks and they'll get four runs on one hit out of it and all of a sudden those stats come back to average.

But I do think it's fair to be a little concerned when you aren't taking full advantage of your production at the plate. I'd like to see them trend toward a little more offensive killer instinct by the time regionals come around.

Posted by CourseyCorridor
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since May 2012
1996 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 8:14 pm to
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No. We only needed the double, but single and sac fly to score a run. The other single and walk loaded up the bases and we couldn't get a 2 out hit to score more runs.


Take the production of the inning: 3 hits (including an extra base hit), a walk and a sac fly. All adds up to one run. You'd look at that production and expect at least 2-3 runs.

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I love the BS arbitrary rules that people make up to try and act like they know what they are talking about.


It's not arbitrary. The NCAA average of runs per game is roughly 5.4. Hits per game are roughly 10 (slightly more). Roughly a 2-1 ratio.

You'd like to be better than average, right? So if you are better than average -- would would be 9 runs off your 17 hits -- you'd score at least 10.


Posted by cajun5tiger
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Oct 2011
290 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 9:07 pm to
It appears to me that the hitters do not have a plan for the situation. The few games that I have seen have had half swings in good counts. It's like the kids are getting taught on the mental part of the at-bat as much. You want aggressiveness, but also smart decisions.
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