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re: Is a national seed within reach?
Posted on 5/23/22 at 10:04 am to lsufball19
Posted on 5/23/22 at 10:04 am to lsufball19
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Posted on 5/23/22 at 10:08 am to The Boat
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LSU was a top 8 seed in 2014 at 17-11-1 thanks to winning the SEC tournament.
So 11 SEC losses like A&M this year and not 13? LSU’s RPI was also 9 heading into the postseason in 2014.
What was LSU Q1 record? Better than 12-16? Or as good as 15-9? (Those are LSU’s and A&M’s this year)
You can argue all day about what you think should happen this year under different scenarios, that’s fine. And I don’t necessarily disagree with those arguments. But it’s not going to happen. It’s just not
And fwiw, I’m not assuming A&M gets a top 8 either just because Kendall Rogers thinks so
This post was edited on 5/23/22 at 10:14 am
Posted on 5/23/22 at 10:10 am to funnystuff
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Don’t we do this every year? And every year, don’t we grossly overstate the impact the SEC tourney has on seeding?
That’s why Ship never really emphasized the tournament.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 10:10 am to lsufball19
I never said they were getting one this season. That was in response to saying the SEC tournament doesn’t matter. LSU isn’t a top 8 seed in 2014 without winning the SEC tournament.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 10:10 am to TeddyPadillac
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but if you beat Auburn, Tennessee, Tennessee again, and A&M, then I would think that would hold a lot of weight
If A&M makes it to the final game they are going to hold onto their national seed. You would need to go undefeated AND hope that A&M goes 0-2 so you could steal their spot.
I think that's your biggest obstacle - A&M is on the opposite side of the bracket and you can't beat them head to head until after they have done enough to solidify their ranking.
The other top 7 seeds are probably locked in at this point.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 10:11 am to da prophet
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That’s why Ship never really emphasized the tournament.
Skip never had to deal with seeding outside of his last three seasons as coach. LSU was hosting a regional if LSU had a good regular season in the 90s.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 10:13 am to The Boat
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I never said they were getting one this season. That was in response to saying the SEC tournament doesn’t matter. LSU isn’t a top 8 seed in 2014 without winning the SEC tournament.
I didn’t say it doesn’t matter. I said people exaggerate the weight the committee gives it. Slight bumps, sure, but meteoric rises, no. I’ve never seen a team be a borderline host team get bumped all the way to a top 8 seed because of the SECT. Hell, we won the damn thing in 2010 and still got sent out to LA and people bitched for many of the same arguments raised ITT
Posted on 5/23/22 at 10:16 am to lsufball19
Anyone bitching about not hosing in 2010 with a 14-16 SEC record eats paste.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 10:22 am to The Boat
LSU needs to win several games in the tournament to improve their hosting spot from 15-16 to maybe 11-12. We do not want to be 15-16 if we can avoid it. I don't think there's is any way to get to #8.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 10:25 am to Alex Box Lives On
Dream a little dream
Posted on 5/23/22 at 10:30 am to Alex Box Lives On
QQ for Tiger fans as I haven't watched much of y'all this year, but what is missing from this team to make a National Championship run? Is it a key piece or just if you get hot and can execute when the time calls for it? I went to the LSU/State series this year, but hard to accurately gauge y'all with how bad we were.
Asking for a June Madness bracket I do with a group every year.
Asking for a June Madness bracket I do with a group every year.
This post was edited on 5/23/22 at 10:34 am
Posted on 5/23/22 at 10:36 am to Alex Box Lives On
Certainly don’t want to rain on the optimism, but We have no chance at a National Top8 seed. Our RPI is in the 20’s, and even winning the SEC tourney wouldn’t get us in the Top10.
We may very well host a regional, but even that is not a guarantee at this point. We probably need a few wins in Hoover to climb into the Top20 and hopefully secure a regional.
A few people in the moment of a great sweep over the weekend were claiming we’re a lock to host a regional, which is absolutely inaccurate despite the very nice Vandy sweep to end the season. We are certainly not a lock to host a regional with a 23 RPI. While traditionally 17 SEC wins and Top4 in conference would normally get you a regional host, this year may be different. Remember, there are only 16 regional hosts.
We may very well host a regional, but even that is not a guarantee at this point. We probably need a few wins in Hoover to climb into the Top20 and hopefully secure a regional.
A few people in the moment of a great sweep over the weekend were claiming we’re a lock to host a regional, which is absolutely inaccurate despite the very nice Vandy sweep to end the season. We are certainly not a lock to host a regional with a 23 RPI. While traditionally 17 SEC wins and Top4 in conference would normally get you a regional host, this year may be different. Remember, there are only 16 regional hosts.
This post was edited on 5/23/22 at 10:44 am
Posted on 5/23/22 at 10:38 am to Alex Box Lives On
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If LSU were to run the table in the SEC tourney, would they have a shot at a top 8 national seed?
Jesus, NO.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 10:39 am to Alex Box Lives On
Depends on other tourneys but low percentage chance of we win SEC tourney and a few others lose early and ugly
Posted on 5/23/22 at 10:43 am to Hold That Tiger 10
Highest ranking is #21 so regardless of SEC showing that would be a no; they won’t climb high enough.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 10:46 am to JPLSU1981
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Certainly don’t want to rain on the optimism, but We have no chance at a National Top8 seed. Our RPI is in the 20’s, and even winning the SEC tourney wouldn’t get us in the Top10
RPI isn't the end all be all. You have Vandy sitting in the top 10 in RPI and they have no shot at hosting at all anymore.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 10:47 am to paulb52
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Highest ranking is #21
Highest ranking what? The polls don't mean a damn thing. However, I'm not shocked that someone who thinks NIL is tied to ticket prices somehow would be clueless.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 10:49 am to Hold That Tiger 10
I just don’t want anyone setting themself up for disappointment, because we’re not getting a Top8 national seed. Even if we win the SECT. We’re too far out of the Top10, hell we’re not even in the Top20, much less the Top10.
We may get a regional, we all certainly hope we will, but we have no shot at Top8 national seed.
And you’re right…RPI isn’t everything in selection, but it’s a big part of the analysis.
We may get a regional, we all certainly hope we will, but we have no shot at Top8 national seed.
And you’re right…RPI isn’t everything in selection, but it’s a big part of the analysis.
This post was edited on 5/23/22 at 10:52 am
Posted on 5/23/22 at 10:49 am to lsufball19
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What was LSU Q1 record? Better than 12-16? Or as good as 15-9? (Those are LSU’s and A&M’s this year)
That’s a very poor way to look at overall performance in this case. It punishes LSU relative to A&M because La Tech just barely made it into Q1, while Penn is just outside Q1. It also gives A&M a pass for going 1-2 the first weekend in March against Washington St, Iowa and Wichita St. Looking at just weekend performance against Power 5 conferences plus A&M’s poor weekend showings against Penn and Wichita St, A&M is 21-15 and LSU is 18-15. That’s a more accurate reflection of relative performance than the arbitrary Q1 cutoff.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 10:58 am to JPLSU1981
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I just don’t want anyone setting themself up for disappointment, because we’re not getting a Top8 national seed. Even if we win the SECT. We’re too far out of the Top10, hell we’re not even in the Top20, much less the Top10.
Its unlikely, and a long shot for sure. But to say impossible is inaccurate. LSU can face 3-4 top 10 RPI teams this week. If they win those games, the RPI should improve enough to make things interesting. Combine that with aTm and Arkansas not making deep runs, and then it gets really interesting.
I think the SEC will get two top 8s and 2 more host sites.
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