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re: In retrospect this team probably overachieved
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:31 am to RB10
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:31 am to RB10
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LSU had the 7th rated roster, talent wise, coming into the season. They finished 10th.
That's the opposite of overachieving with "this roster".
Based on what measure? Is age & class & experience taken into affect?
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Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:31 am to mhc4tigers
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with this schedule
This scheduled ended up being not nearly as hard as anticipated. Not to mention that every team plays a hard schedule every now and then.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:31 am to Powerman
Going 9-3 when I predicted them to go 8-4 is hardly over achieving
and no Cole Tracy would not have been that good
and no Cole Tracy would not have been that good
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 9:33 am
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:34 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Look I like this team, and they overcame some adversity, but 9-3 is 9-3. You are what your record says you are. Not a bad season per se but 9-3 is not overachieving at LSU.
Yes it is. Considering the predictions for this team were a minimum of 4-6 losses. Some even said 7. And especially considering our injuries, we overachieved. That's no excuse for our horrible offensive play, but yes, we overachieved. We had a very hard schedule.
Now next years schedule, and our starters, i think we should end up 10-2 at a minimum.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:35 am to Dave England
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This scheduled ended up being not nearly as hard as anticipated. Not to mention that every team plays a hard schedule every now and then.
Dave do you have our SOS ranking handy?
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:37 am to Lester Earl
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Based on what measure? Is age & class & experience taken into affect?
Based on the only measure that puts such a ranking together. The 247 Sports composite talent ranking that they put out each season.
You're more than welcome to go through rosters and dispute it Lester. Be our guest.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:41 am to RB10
the fact that we have only like 3 Srs graduating & a small handful draft eligible tells me the power of this current roster will be much more apparent next year. Context matters as usual
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:45 am to Lester Earl
You still touting the wins over 7-5 Miami and 7-5 Auburn?
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:49 am to Dave England
Dave, do you have our SOS ranking handy?
Let’s not even focus on those games. What does the body of work say?
Let’s not even focus on those games. What does the body of work say?
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:52 am to Lester Earl
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the fact that we have only like 3 Srs graduating & a small handful draft eligible tells me the power of this current roster will be much more apparent next year. Context matters as usual
So long as we don't have any head scratching early declarations the roster should be very strong and experienced next year
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:54 am to Lester Earl
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the fact that we have only like 3 Srs graduating & a small handful draft eligible tells me the power of this current roster will be much more apparent next year. Context matters as usual
Joe Burrow - JR
Nick Brossette - SR
Lanard Fournette - JR
Dee Anderson - JR
Stephen Sullivan - JR
Derrick Dillon - JR
Jonathan Giles - JR
Foster Moreau - SR
Garrett Brumfield - SR
Damein Lewis - JR
Badara Traore - JR
Adrian Magee - JR
Breiden Feheko - JR
Rashard Lawrence - JR
Ed Alexander - JR
Devin White - JR
Michael Divinity - JR
Greedy Williams - RS SO
Terrance Alexander - SR
Kristian Fulton - JR
John Battle - SR
Cole Tracy - SR
You're right. Hardly any juniors or seniors contributed this season.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:06 am to Lester Earl
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What if I told you that LSU was not expected to beat those teams?
What if I told you that LSU was not expected to beat those teams based on preseason projections and that clinging to preseason projections in the face of...you know...ACTUAL GAME RESULTS, may be the most asinine thing youve posted?
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:06 am to RB10
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ou're right. Hardly any juniors or seniors contributed this season.
I think his point was that most were juniors and of those only a handful are expected to declare for the draft
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:11 am to Powerman
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I think his point was that most were juniors and of those only a handful are expected to declare for the draft
Every person listed there is draft eligible, which was his criteria. I'll ask again, does any of this somehow make 247's ranking of LSU's roster incorrect? I haven't seen a single valid point to suggest that it is. Lester Earl's standard "nu-uh" response not withstanding, obviously.
If you have tangible proof that LSU didn't have the 7th most talented roster in college football this year, let's see it.
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 10:12 am
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:28 am to RB10
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You're right. Hardly any juniors or seniors contributed this season.
Let’s read again exactly what I said.
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the fact that we have only like 3 Srs graduating & a small handful draft eligible
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:28 am to Lester Earl
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What if I told you that LSU was not expected to beat those teams?
What if I asked you so what? What if I asked you why?
You are playing semantics, he said expected to win so you say HAHA we were underdogs so not “expected” to win! Winning at Auburn is usually tough, I don’t want to belittle it, frankly i thought going in the year we had a better chance to beat UGA because it was at home but it turns out Auburn wasn’t very good so while at the time LSU wasn’t “expected” to win in retrospect we should have.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:40 am to H-Town Tiger
I think LSU’s strength of schedule speaks for itself.
No real reason to get into semantics. If you don’t want to acknowledge LSU went into those games as underdogs not expected to win, that is fine.
No real reason to get into semantics. If you don’t want to acknowledge LSU went into those games as underdogs not expected to win, that is fine.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:41 am to RB10
Why’d you leave off all the other back ups?
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:57 am to Lester Earl
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If you don’t want to acknowledge LSU went into those games as underdogs not expected to win, that is fine.
yet you do not want to acknowledge Miami was 8th at the time.
Miami has not been ranked in a single CFP committee ranking.
you do not want to acknowledge that Auburn was also top 10 at the time, in week 3, because of preseason rankings.
6-3 Auburn was ranked 24th in the second CFP committee rankings. they would fall out the following week and have not returned to the rankings.
southeastern, ole miss, arkansas, rice all finished with losing records.
Mississippi State and UGA are "who we thought they were". I would be touting those victories moreso than Miami and Auburn.
the real surprise/s is/are UF and aTm both starting the season unranked. Again, I would be touting those losses as "quality" losses if I were trying to make an argument about the schedule.
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 10:57 am
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:02 am to Lester Earl
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the fact that we have only like 3 Srs graduating & a small handful draft eligible
I know what you said. In no way is the number of juniors that I listed a "small handful".
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 11:04 am
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