re: In Jefferson the Tiger's don't exactly trust

I cant ever recall LSU going into a season with a 2yr starting qb this bad. I mean my biggest fear is since JJ has months to prepare for Oregon and he has proved he can actually learn a gameplan if given time either an offseason or waiting for a bowl game he may have a decent game against Oregon which would be great. However if he is the same JJ which he looked like in the Spring game he will follow it up with back to back horrible performances against Moo St and WV and think he is doing just fine.

I just dont get what Miles thinks JJ brings to the table. In his 30 games at LSU (hard to believe, I know) here is what hes done:


Passing; 336 of 578 (58.1%) -- which doesnt seem all that bad until you realize he doesnt throw the ball unless the WR is wide open.

3,996 yds (133.2 yds per game) -- not acceptable for a guy starting his 3rd yr. In comparison, Tommy Hodson passed for 9,115 yards and 69 touchdowns. JR had 6,625 in about the same number of games, Flynn had 3,100 yds in just 13 starts. Wickersham 6,921 yds in 3 yrs.

28 TDs -- not even one a game

18 ints -- considering how he doesnt throw except to wide open WRs, this is problem

61 sacks (-417 yds) -- over 2 per game; confirms that he holds on too long, waiting for the WR to get open

Rushing; 284 attempts (9.6 per game) -- let that sink in. A guy who averages 2.66 yds per carry is taking away 10 opportunities from Scott (5.5), Williams (5.7); Holliday (6.8); Ridley (4.6); Shepard (6.5); Ford (6.0); Ware (7.3). Its mind-boggling that Miles wants a "running" QB

Totals: 133.2 pypg + 25.2 rypg = 158.4 -2 ypg (sacks) is 156.4 ypg -- last yr there were 79 QBs that passed for that many yds per game; 79!

Losses: JJ took the majority of the snaps in 8 losses out of 28 games. Then theres Moo St (Chad Jones punt return & EZ deflection); Ga (Scott breakaway, cuz JJ didnt want the ball); Arky (they missed a FG in OT); UNC (2 dropped TDs in the final seconds); TN (Lee, 4th & 14); Fla (Lee fade pass); Bama (Lee, 3rd down 46 yd completion) -- which means in over half of his games, LSU loses if we need to rely on him. Which = too much inconsistency.

My friend has a message for JJ. Get that sh1t out of here...

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Im sorry, we will go no where with JJ playing QB...period, end of story, book it, whatever...

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except to a bcs bowl

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He's played in 3 bowl games. Remind me which one was the BCS Bowl that he led us to?

Because if he had led us to an Arky win last yr, we're there.

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2008: 8-5
2009: 9-4
2010: 11-2
2011: BCS bowl

It's hardly an off-the-wall prediction.

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2009: 9-4
2010: 11-2

It's hardly an off-the-wall prediction.

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If Lee doesnt play in 2010, and '10 looks exactly like '09 (9-4).

So yeah, its way off the wall.

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FWIW, if Lee doesn't play in 2010, we may have beaten Auburn.

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Lee was 6-8 passing, after coming in for JJ trailing 10-0, and then got his throwing hand smashed

are you effing kidding me?

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You're blaming Jefferson for that game, not.... oh... i don't know... Hatcher?

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Oh I dont know. You tell me

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L 1-10 A46 Stevan Ridley rush up middle for no gain to the AR46 (Jerico Nelson).
L 2-10 A46 Jo. Jefferson sacked for loss of 4 yards to the 50 yardline (Damario
Ambrose).
L 3-14 L50 Jo. Jefferson rush SC for 13 yards to the AR37 (DeQuinta Jones;Jerico
Nelson).
L 4-1 A37 Jo. Jefferson rush quarterback sneak for 2 yards to the AR35, 1ST DOWN
LS (Lavunce Askew).
L 1-10 A35 Stevan Ridley rush over left guard for 3 yards to the AR32 (Jerico Nelson).
L 2-7 A32 Stevan Ridley rush over right guard for 2 yards to the AR30
Williams;Jerry Franklin).
L 3-5 A30 Jo. Jefferson rush QK for 1 yard to the AR29 (Zach Stadther;Jerry Franklin).
L 4-4 A29 Josh Jasper field goal attempt from 46 GOOD, clock 10:39.

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LSU 17, ARKANSAS 21
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L 1-G A09 Jo. Jefferson LF pass complete to Stevan Ridley for 6 yards to the AR3 (T.
Williams).
L 2-G A03 Stevan Ridley rush over left guard for no gain to the AR3 (Zach
Stadther;Damario Ambrose).
L 3-G A03 Jo. Jefferson deep pass incomplete to De. Peterson (Tramain Thomas).
L 4-G A03 Josh Jasper field goal attempt from 20 GOOD, clock 07:52.
--------------- 4 plays, 6 yards, TOP 01:14 ---------------

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LSU 20, ARKANSAS 21
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L 2-9 L50 Jo. Jefferson at QB for LSU.
L 2-9 L50 Jo. Jefferson RS pass complete to T. Toliver for 4 yards to the AR46,
out-of-bounds (Tramain Thomas).
L 3-5 A46 Jo. Jefferson sacked for loss of 2 yards to the AR48 (Tenarius Wright).
L 4-7 A48 Josh Jasper punt 48 yards to the AR0, touchback.
--------------- 3 plays, 3 yards, TOP 01:49 ---------------

L 1-10 L32 LSU drive start at 14:10.
L 1-10 L32 Jo. Jefferson deep pass incomplete to T. Toliver.
L 2-10 L32 Jo. Jefferson rush up middle for 4 yards to the LS36 (Zach Stadther;Anthony
Leon).
L 3-6 L36 Jo. Jefferson middle pass complete to De. Peterson for 3 yards to the LS39
(Freddy Burton).
L 4-3 L39 Josh Jasper punt 51 yards to the AR10, downed.
--------------- 3 plays, 7 yards, TOP 01:58 ---------------

L 1-10 L38 Jo. Jefferson RS pass complete to Chris Tolliver for 12 yards to the 50
yardline, 1ST DOWN LS (Isaac Madison).
L 1-10 L50 Jo. Jefferson LF pass complete to Kadron Boone for 16 yards to the AR34,
1ST DOWN LS (Darius Winston;T. Williams).
L 1-10 A34 Jo. Jefferson middle pass complete to T. Toliver for 5 yards to the AR29
(Jerico Nelson).
L 2-5 A29 Jo. Jefferson CU pass complete to James Wright for 8 yards to the AR21,
1ST DOWN LS.
L 1-10 A21 Richard Murphy rush up middle for 7 yards to the AR14 (DeQuinta Jones).
L 2-3 A14 Richard Murphy rush up middle for 2 yards to the AR12 (Jerico Nelson).
L 3-1 A12 Stevan Ridley rush up middle for 4 yards to the AR8, 1ST DOWN LS
(Jerry Franklin).
L 1-G A08 Jo. Jefferson LF pass incomplete to Spencer Ware, QB hurry by Jerico Nelson.
L 2-G A08 TEAM rush for loss of 19 yards to the AR27, fumble by TEAM recovered by LS
Jo. Jefferson at AR27, Jo. Jefferson for no gain to the AR27 (T. Williams).
L 3-G A27 Timeout LSU, clock 02:48.
L 3-G A27 Jo. Jefferson rush SC for 8 yards to the AR19 (Freddy Burton).
L 4-G A19 Josh Jasper field goal attempt from 36 GOOD, clock 01:58.

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LSU 23, ARKANSAS 31
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L 1-16 L06 1st and 10.
L 1-10 L06 Jo. Jefferson pass incomplete to Russell Shepard.
L 2-10 L06 Jo. Jefferson sacked for loss of 5 yards to the LS1 (Andru Stewart), fumble
by Jo. Jefferson recovered by AR Jerry Franklin at LS1.
--------------- 2 plays, minus 11 yards, TOP 00:10 ---------------

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L 3-5 A30 Jo. Jefferson rush QK for 1 yard to the AR29 (Zach Stadther;Jerry Franklin).

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wait, was this that play where we tried a sneak with about 4 yds to go?

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L 1-G A08 Jo. Jefferson LF pass incomplete to Spencer Ware, QB hurry by Jerico Nelson.

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the TD that wasn't. how the frick did he miss that? sigh...

anyway, on to 2011