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re: In Ed’s book regarding Canada

Posted on 11/2/20 at 12:24 pm to
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 11/2/20 at 12:24 pm to
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That was coach speak, O was talking to the team, to inspire confidence. I don’t see how anyone can take coach speak literally In this day and age coaches that are in the public eye like this are very much like a politician.



bullshite. The way he worded it was a shot at Aranda. He had the following coachspeak options:

"This defense is extremely athletic and gets after the ball."
"This defensive will live up to our expectations."
"The defense has not taken a step back."
"The defense will be elite once again."
"The defense is tough and will do their job."

But he specifically said they were better than last year's defense. It was an idiotic take from a coach who was full of idiotic soundbites this offseason.
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
6836 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 12:28 pm to
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No, it was a shot at our outgoing DC, the only coordinator O has had that he didn't have a hand in hiring.


Hell, not only did he not have a hand in hiring him, he used to work FOR Aranda.
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 12:30 pm to
You can only hire the 'best coordinators' if you are respected by the 'best coordinators'. The top guys in their positions aren't going to be subordinate to someone they consider beneath them on a coaching level. O will NEVER be able to hire the best for that simple reason.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59692 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 12:31 pm to
the o line won the award for best o line in the country last year. I guess Cregg was not a good hire.

Special teams have been atop the nation since we brought on the ST coach, I guess that was not a good hire.

The picking and choosing you are using is quite funny
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
6836 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 12:37 pm to
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Unfortunately, you will never keep those wonderkid offensive minds around as a second-fiddle.


Agreed, but you hire the next one instead of going back to some NFL journeyman who has been meh at pretty much every place he’s been.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19450 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 12:41 pm to
Ed wants his friends and would rather not deal with people he's unfamiliar with. If this is the case, LSU is doomed.

I seem to remember he was somewhat suspicious of Brady prior to hiring him.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64611 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 12:41 pm to
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What elite head coach out there has their AD telling them to “stay out of the offense“ because apparently they are too stupid to offer anything of value?

What AD tells a head coach in any sport how to do their jobs? It works both ways. It's possible to talk about what Ed has done wrong without bringing that boob Alleva into the picture to defend a point. Alleva wasn't staying in his lane either in that scenario.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59692 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 12:45 pm to
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I seem to remember he was somewhat suspicious of Brady prior to hiring him.



Not at all, he took the advice of people he trusted to hire Brady, just like He did when he hired Pelini, just like he did when he recruited burrow.

Etc
Etc

In other words you can’t say he got lucky on one case, but in another case it is all on him. Ultimately, it is ALL on him. Brady just as much as bo just as much as burrow.
Posted by Tigahs7
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2020
193 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 12:49 pm to
Y’all were just praising E for the tremendous game plan last game and how he’s doing an excellent job. This is the first game where our play calling was bad. So which is it?
This post was edited on 11/2/20 at 12:49 pm
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
6836 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 12:53 pm to
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I seem to remember he was somewhat suspicious of Brady prior to hiring him.


My understanding was Brady was Ensminger’s guy. O trusted E with it. Hell Brady didn’t even tell O he was leaving.

O couldn’t bash the offense like he did the defense for obvious reasons, but he seemed to go out of his way to infer that Ensminger was really the guy pulling the strings when everyone with a pulse knew better.
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
Member since Oct 2017
6392 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 12:55 pm to
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the Canada hire made him realize how important it was to hire coaches that will fit the culture, that is why Ed is more likely to hire coaches he knows or is very familiar with.


Then we have a busted-arse culture if he can’t find elite coaches that he can plug into it.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15896 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 1:02 pm to
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What AD tells a head coach in any sport how to do their jobs? It works both ways. It's possible to talk about what Ed has done wrong without bringing that boob Alleva into the picture to defend a point. Alleva wasn't staying in his lane either in that scenario.

Orgeron insisted he had changed since Ole Miss and would let his coaches coach, so Alleva gave him a second chance when nobody else would. That proved untrue less than a month into the next season.

There's a lot to criticize Alleva for. Telling his hand-picked guy to keep his word isn't one of them.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65944 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 1:04 pm to
I still don't understand why O went out of his way so many times to hype the defense. Some of the statements he made definitely seemed like shots at Aranda.

I was actually disappointed in O then, but especially now.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56480 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 1:04 pm to
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I don’t follow this logic at all.



That's because it doesn't follow.

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56480 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 1:05 pm to
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It's actually not.



I think it's clear.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7520 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 1:05 pm to
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the o line won the award for best o line in the country last year. I guess Cregg was not a good hire.


how they looking this year?
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 1:11 pm to
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the Canada hire made him realize how important it was to hire coaches that will fit the culture, that is why Ed is more likely to hire coaches he knows or is very familiar with.




That's fine if they're good coaches. You shouldn't prioritize comfort over ability though.

He should rethink his culture if those that fit it are either old or not very good.
This post was edited on 11/2/20 at 1:13 pm
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59692 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 1:19 pm to
the culture just built the best team college football has ever seen.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59692 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 1:25 pm to
cregg did such a good job that he had a center leave early. How often do centers leave early? Then we had to get a transfer from Harvard to take his spot. Damien Lewis got made into a nfl starter by cregg and he came to LSU as an afterthought. But yea by all means let’s focus on this one season and ignore the rest.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59692 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 1:26 pm to
RETHINK the culture that just lead to the greatest season ever
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