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re: In defense of Tommy Casanova

Posted on 2/3/09 at 9:48 am to
Posted by Rougarou4lsu
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2003
3100 posts
Posted on 2/3/09 at 9:48 am to
I believe Gatewoods's quote was, "Tommy Casanova
played me in my jockstrap" After the 3-0 game
in Southbend. And who can forget him planting
the Italian Stallion, John Musso, on a sidelines
hit right in front of the Bear. They had to stop the game to scrape Musso of the field. Best hit in LSU history.
Posted by cosmicdingo
Springhill, La.
Member since Mar 2006
2173 posts
Posted on 2/3/09 at 9:53 am to
All around ace, which was his problem, huge recognition goes to specialists. Met him once, while he was still playing, and he was a real nice person. Even told me he knew where Springhill was, which means he was either lost, or into exploring. Wish the secondary had 4 clones of him every year.
Posted by taf
Kansas City, KS
Member since Dec 2003
785 posts
Posted on 2/3/09 at 10:02 am to
Wow. I'm surprised that this thread is still going.

He was the best football player I've ever seen. For those who never got a chance to watch him, he was the total package: smarts, size, speed, strength, agility, and aggression. It may be hard for guys who haven't seen him to believe, but he was every bit as fast as the fastest guys playing today (except for Trindon). He had long strides, and his running looked effortless. And he brought that speed to bear when he was tackling. Man, he could lay a lick on you. With as much God-given ability as he had, I have no doubt that he would be a superstar in any era. And to boot, Tommy and all his siblings and family members are just the nicest folks you'd want to meet.
Posted by LSUfannLA
No Man's Land
Member since Aug 2004
26536 posts
Posted on 2/3/09 at 10:23 am to
Saw him play a few times, but missed the hit on Musso against Alabama. Did'nt Musso win the Heisman the year or the year before. That hit is in LSU football folklore.
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 2/3/09 at 10:32 am to
quote:

Yeah, too many bong hits for you, Rougaroo. I would compare him to Hookfin in the modern era.

IN ten years fans like you will be saying that Mawae and Faneca could never play modern football.
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7678 posts
Posted on 2/3/09 at 11:14 am to
This is truly a bizarre thread, although I think most folks realize that not THAT much has changed in the last 30 years or so.

Of course, modern training methods have had a huge impact, as have changes in style of play. But when you're talking about a guy who had the height, size and speed equal to or better than most NFL players right now, I have to laugh at the idea that he "couldn't cover the WR's on an 8-5 team." And that doesn't even get into what modern training methods could have done for him.

This sums it up nicely:

"Do u not think Bob Hayes was fast enough to play in todays NFL? How about Paul Warfield? Lynn Swann, John Stallworth? Cliff Branch? Casanova played against all these guys. It is not even debatable Casanova was an athlete who could play in any era up to now and be a star."

Posted by knownametiger
Member since Jan 2009
8 posts
Posted on 2/3/09 at 11:16 am to
If not he and Stovall are tied
Posted by MiketheTiger69
Moore/Norman, Oklahoma
Member since Jan 2004
3315 posts
Posted on 2/3/09 at 11:24 am to
quote:

If you're comparing Tommy Casanova to Demetrius Hookfin, then you're a moron


Please do not insult the moron population by including this guy in it!

TC was a cover corner. In the 3-0 ND game in South Bend, he completely shut down ND AA Tom Gatewood. After the game, Gatewood said "It was like he was playing inside my jockstrap all day".
I'd have to say he was probably second only to Billy Cannon in all the years I've been watching LSU fb. Cannon was better only because he was more powerfully built than TC but talent wise, they were pretty much equal.
Make no mistake about it, TC could cover ANYBODY, then or now!
Posted by Idlpeach
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2003
1586 posts
Posted on 2/3/09 at 11:32 am to
quote:

Tommy Casanova is the best man to ever play football for LSU.
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
24442 posts
Posted on 2/3/09 at 11:36 am to
Here he is on a 1971 Sports Illustrated. Same as my avatar.


Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
24442 posts
Posted on 2/3/09 at 11:38 am to
quote:

no one who saw casanova shut down notre dame's all american receiver - gatewood - in 1971


Read about it here: "Irish Stew"

LINK

Posted by DallasTiger
THE Capital City
Member since Jan 2004
4510 posts
Posted on 2/3/09 at 11:49 am to
quote:

I have to laugh at the idea that he "couldn't cover the WRs on an 8-5 team."



Tommy Casanova was a terrific player. He was a star in the 70s and would be one today.
Posted by jackamo3300
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2004
2901 posts
Posted on 2/3/09 at 11:50 am to
That hit on Musso was by Richard Picou
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36804 posts
Posted on 2/3/09 at 11:50 am to
Casanova was one of the best ever for LSU. Anyone who doesn't think he would have played now is a damn fool.
Posted by MiketheTiger69
Moore/Norman, Oklahoma
Member since Jan 2004
3315 posts
Posted on 2/3/09 at 11:50 am to
quote:

Did'nt Musso win the Heisman the year or the year before.



Musso (nor any other Bama player) ever won the Heisman. I saw TC send Musso flying that night. I was sitting next to a couple of Bama fans and yelled, "Kill his arse!" Needless to say, they didn't like it!
Posted by jackamo3300
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2004
2901 posts
Posted on 2/3/09 at 11:52 am to
And yes, Casanova's reaction speed to the ball was as good as any I've seen today.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36804 posts
Posted on 2/3/09 at 11:53 am to
quote:

I would compare him to Hookfin in the modern era


You're kidding,right ?
Posted by 31commander
Member since Apr 2008
27 posts
Posted on 2/3/09 at 12:10 pm to
Watched him play often and had a chance to meet him while playing prep. He was definately the best all time DB at LSU or the SEC. I learned much more just watching him, than from any high school coach. He sure never got hit in the back because he didn't know where the ball was. It's a shame there is not more film that the younger players could learn from. Great person in real life too.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 2/3/09 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

Dude, its only
40 years...no evolution of the species at work here.


This thread reminds me of something Skip Bertman said back in the early '90s at an alumni banquet I attended.

He told the story of a legendary Olympic swimmer from the 1930s or 1940s (Johnny Weismuller, if I recall correctly). He had won a number of gold medals in various events. Skip then said that in last year's AAU swimming national championships, a 12-year-old girl swam a faster time than his gold-medal-winning time in one of the events.

This doesn't answer the question of how Weismuller (or Casanova) would have done with modern training techniques, but it does demonstrate that, for whatever reason, modern athletes are performing at a far higher level than athletes did even just a few decades ago.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 2/3/09 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

You're kidding,right ?


actually I think he just sucks real bad at sarcasm...and it accounts for about 90% of his posts.


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