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re: I'm really trying to understand why McMahon's teams are so bad
Posted on 2/26/26 at 11:49 am to Lapaz
Posted on 2/26/26 at 11:49 am to Lapaz
Reed has played 50 games vs P5 teams and averages around 6points and under 4 rebounds per game in those games. Nwoko’s numbers are better across the board both vs high level competition and overall so I don’t know where you’re getting that he’s more productive when he clearly isn’t no matter how you slice it.
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Posted on 2/26/26 at 11:52 am to Madking
Reed having back to back season ending injuries has sealed his legacy as an All American.
Posted on 2/26/26 at 11:55 am to drizztiger
So we’ve had PK, bb and now chin all admitting in the past couple days that they are completely fine with LSU being a last place team just as long as McMahon is the coach. There is no reasoning with people like that because our motivations are on opposite ends of the spectrum.
Posted on 2/26/26 at 1:11 pm to Madking
So what if Nwoko is better if he fouls an average of 6.4 times per 40 minutes? That also makes him unavailable for much of the games, which means we need a player that doesn't drop off much. Miller is a big drop-off in most ways, so Reed was an important player. I have never claimed that he was a great player, but the point was it hurt the team significantly to lose Reed. Nwoko could be the 2nd coming of Shaq, but we needed another good post player badly when your starter fouls at a high rate.
Posted on 2/26/26 at 1:16 pm to Lapaz
That’s on McMahon for poor roster construction. Reed is a fringe starter/bench player for a poor to middling team and an end of the bench guy for a good team. If your success depends on him you weren’t going to have any.
Posted on 2/26/26 at 1:29 pm to Lapaz
And to be clear, with these player assessments I’m making them in the context of how McMahon uses them. If we were talking about their potential with someone who knows what they’re doing it would change and elevate both players. For example Nwoko is not a center, he’s closer to 6-8 than 6-10 and the fouling has a lot to do with him playing out of position. Remember Naz started as a center for us but kept getting into foul trouble so we put KVB into the lineup and moved Naz to the 4. If Reed had been developed at all he could be an effective high post player but both have been diminished by playing for McMahon.
This post was edited on 2/26/26 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 2/26/26 at 2:34 pm to Madking
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And to be clear, with these player assessments I’m making them in the context of how McMahon uses them. If we were talking about their potential with someone who knows what they’re doing it would change and elevate both players. For example Nwoko is not a center, he’s closer to 6-8 than 6-10 and the fouling has a lot to do with him playing out of position. Remember Naz started as a center for us but kept getting into foul trouble so we put KVB into the lineup and moved Naz to the 4. If Reed had been developed at all he could be an effective high post player but both have been diminished by playing for McMahon.
Roster formation is a different topic. However based on the roster McMahon had for this season, it hurt to lose Reed. To your point, with a healthy Reed, Nwoko could've played the 4 much more. Reed would've helped this team win some of the close games, but this team didn't fall apart until we lost Thomas.
Posted on 2/26/26 at 4:21 pm to Lapaz
Even when Reed was playing Nwoko was in the same spot. Reed’s health didn’t change the mistakes I mentioned. It’s no different than the Trae Hannibal situation where he had the guy for 3 years and only figured out where he belonged a couple weeks before his career ended because Cook quit. No player or players are gonna save this guy.
This post was edited on 2/26/26 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 2/26/26 at 4:48 pm to Madking
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So we’ve had PK, bb and now chin all admitting in the past couple days that they are completely fine with LSU being a last place team just as long as McMahon is the coach
I assume you are referring to me. I have been consistent that I am fine if he is replaced at the end of the season. At least I am objective enough to say I dont know whether he could be successful or not given the situation he inherited and the devestating injuries the past two seasons. He may have still failed. If for no other reaspn than optics I am fine with his termination. However, I have also consistgently said they need to go big or not at all. Start with Billy Donovan and work down from there. Get someone who will make a splash.
Posted on 2/26/26 at 5:08 pm to Lapaz
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but this team didn't fall apart until we lost Thomas.
Cause or coincidence?
Did LSU fall apart because they lost Thomas? Or did they lose Thomas at the same time they were set to fall apart anyway (i.e. once SEC play started)
LSU's non-conference schedule is the 3rd worst in the league. Which means with Thomas they beat a bunch of bad teams, got destroyed by a really good team (Texas Tech) and beat a pretty good team (SMU). That's kind of been the McMahon non-conf. formula for all 4 years. So it is difficult to say SEC play would have been different based upon the non-conf. performance.
However, Thomas DID play in 3 SEC games. LSU lost all three. Now, two of those were on the road against some very good teams (Arkansas and Florida), which means a loss without or without Thomas is probably expected. However, Mississippi St is most certainly NOT a good team. Yet, with Thomas playing nearly 30 minutes and scoring in double-figures, LSU got destroyed. They were down 23 at HT
Hypothetically McMahon might be a great coach at LSU if not for circumstances. And hypothetically Margot Robbie might want to hook up with me if not for circumstances. Unfortunately, reality exists and there are very limited circumstances MM would be a good coach at LSU (perhaps no adversity and great luck) just like there are very limited circumstances Margot Robbie would hook up with me (perhaps she's drunk out of her mind and mistakes me for someone else)
Posted on 2/26/26 at 5:48 pm to tigersbb
That isn’t objective, it’s the definition of subjective and you’ve argued to keep him over rehiring Wade which is insane. Now I don’t think Wade is coming back, it’s irrelevant, you still need a new coach who can actually coach basketball and there are plenty out there. Donovan isn’t coming and I don’t believe it’ll be anyone like that (popular to normies) but it doesn’t have to be. Again plenty of excellent coaches out there.
Posted on 2/26/26 at 6:04 pm to Madking
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That isn’t objective, it’s the definition of subjective and you’ve argued to keep him over rehiring Wade which is insane.
I have never said that. If Mcmahon is replaced I am fine with Wade returning, but I agree its doubtful. I hope they do make a run at Donovan. Maybe he is the basketball version of Saban and misses the college game. Worth a shot. You can go through the league and there have been so many hires from mid level schools that have not worked out. They look great in a three piece suit but it jsut doesn't work out. Aim high. There will be a financial commitment. Just hope the injury bug ginds another place to land whomever is coaching.
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