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re: I'll ask it. Why did Mett get no meaningful snaps last year?

Posted on 9/9/12 at 4:52 pm to
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 4:52 pm to
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it is the fact that it is so much better that I think the question is being asked.


Oh, I thought the question was being asked cause some can't move or maybe they can't understand 8 months of being the #1 guy might have something to do with how he currently is playing.


I didn't know something beneficial would come from what is little more than tired, old conjecture.



This post was edited on 9/9/12 at 5:07 pm
Posted by NoGeaux
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
5541 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 4:52 pm to
The NCAA limits the number of hours kids can practice. Lee and JJ needed all that time with the 1's and 2's. Just wasn't time enough to get Mett ready even if Miles wanted to which there is no evidence he did.

Mett realized this early on and while he did all that was asked of him in practice simply did not do the "extra" work on his own knowing he was not part of gameplan.

He was physically ready and could have been worked into a 1st or 2nd team mentality had the staff chose it but they didn't.

Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
42210 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 4:53 pm to
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I do not understand the defense of Mett not playing more last year when the 2 Sr. qb's were doing so poorly.


Up to the Bama game......how did JL play poorly?

Did JJ not play well vs. Bama? WIN in T-Town?

If Bama doesn't get a mulligan, are we even having these conversations???

Let it go dude
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10477 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 4:53 pm to
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Tiger Authority


I will ask you again. Why is the best qb on the team, behind 2 poor qb's 3rd on the depth chart?

You keep defending not playing the best qb because he is listed 3rd. Do you really think another SEC coach would have had Mett listed behind dumb and dumber last year?
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 4:55 pm to
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You are correct, we cannot KNOW. However, one could guess that playing your best player gives one the best chance to win.


But we were winning.

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Are you guys just defend CLM at all cost guys? I do not understand the defense of Mett not playing more last year when the 2 Sr. qb's were doing so poorly.


I just don't find use in lamenting over it. This thread has been done about 500 times before. It's September 9, 2012. We're two games into this season. I can't change last year, and I don't know why things happened. But I know we were all fine with winning during last season until we lost the NC game. Then everyone decided to play revisionist history and tell us what would have happened if Mett played. It doesn't work that way.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48340 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 4:55 pm to
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JL did pretty good until the AL game,


JL was good until we played a good defense in Alabama.


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but JJ was a horrible qb


The offense rolled against Ole Miss and Arkansas. It halted when we played two elite defenses in Georgia and Alabama.

Why is it so hard to connect the dots?
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 4:56 pm to
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I will ask you again. Why is the best qb on the team, behind 2 poor qb's 3rd on the depth chart?

You keep defending not playing the best qb because he is listed 3rd. Do you really think another SEC coach would have had Mett listed behind dumb and dumber last year?





Jesus dude, I answered what I thought the reason was on the prior page. How many answers do you want? frick
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 4:56 pm to
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JL was good until we played a good defense in Alabama.




Did everyone forget about the Kentucky game?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70972 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 4:58 pm to
Basically they're saying Mett wasn't ready. Which I don't buy. Our offense was not very complicated.

I think Miles liked the change of pace that JJ offered with his running ability and the option. He could not have predicted it would actually be our demise on 1/9.

He made a judgement call, and it didn't work. It's tough for some people to admit that our HC made a mistake.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 4:58 pm to
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I do not understand the defense of Mett not playing more last year when the 2 Sr. qb's were doing so poorly.

Were you at all the team practices? Spring training? On the sidelines during games? Did you communicate daily with the assistant coaches regarding player progression and gameplan? Have you ever led a team to an SEC Championship?

I suspect the answers to all those questions would be "No," which means not only that you are privy to less team information than CLM, but also that you have less credibility when it comes to decision-making as a head coach.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 4:59 pm to
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He made a judgement call, and it didn't work. It's tough for some people to admit that our HC made a mistake.





wtf are you talking about? The gameplan for the NC was a fricking abomination. I'm just not deluded enough to believe that another quarterback was going to win that game with that gameplan. Everyone else seems to have convinced themselves that it would have made a difference. I just don't.
Posted by LSUKAT
Birmingham, AL.
Member since Dec 2007
1380 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 5:00 pm to
Don't think he will ever be remembered in any way by LSU fans as anything but inept as QB. He never improved as QB any over his 3 years starting. It always looked like he regressed and never figured it out. He ran it seemed out of fear in the pocket. I think he should have been a running back or receiver, he may have had success there.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70972 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 5:01 pm to
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Were you at all the team practices? Spring training? On the sidelines during games? Did you communicate daily with the assistant coaches regarding player progression and gameplan? Have you ever led a team to an SEC Championship? I suspect the answers to all those questions would be "No," which means not only that you are privy to less team information than CLM, but also that you have less credibility when it comes to decision-making as a head coach.


This is pretty dumb, bro. Anyone not blinded by complete and utter homerism can see that ZM is and was a better QB. You can gather that from watching what's most important, the games. You don't need to be at practice to draw that conclusion.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22794 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 5:01 pm to
Let me explain:

It isn't Mett didn't get meaningful snaps because he was third string... he was third string so he wouldn't get meaningful snaps. Les could not let mett play or you would have had the fan base clamoring for him to start.
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10477 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 5:02 pm to
I think I finally get it. 2 Sr. qbs trump a much better player.

We were winning so need to concern ourselves with improving. Miles got to ride out the season with his beloved JJ and you get to enjoy our no. 2 ranking last year. Im out.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 5:02 pm to
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Les could not let mett play or you would have had the fan base clamoring for him to start.



Les doesn't want to win.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 5:03 pm to
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I think I finally get it. 2 Sr. qbs trump a much better player.



I simply offered reasons.

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We were winning so need to concern ourselves with improving. Miles got to ride out the season with his beloved JJ and you get to enjoy our no. 2 ranking last year. Im out.



Yep, Les wanted to sabotage his shot at winning. He actually wanted to be a worse football team.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 5:04 pm to
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Basically they're saying Mett wasn't ready.

I'm not saying that. Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. I don't know. What I'm saying is, the head coach (who, as I've mentioned, happens to be the winningest in school history) had access to all the information. He also has a superb record to back up his judgment. You do not. Nor do I.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70972 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 5:04 pm to
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wtf are you talking about? The gameplan for the NC was a fricking abomination. I'm just not deluded enough to believe that another quarterback was going to win that game with that gameplan. Everyone else seems to have convinced themselves that it would have made a difference. I just don't.


We obviously would not have had that same gameplan with any other quarterback.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 5:05 pm to
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I can't change last year, and I don't know why things happened.


Then get thee to another thread, Mr. Authority.

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