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re: I'll ask it. Why did Mett get no meaningful snaps last year?

Posted on 9/9/12 at 5:05 pm to
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 5:05 pm to
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We obviously would not have had that same gameplan with any other quarterback.




why are we even having a discussion when you know all the answers?
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 5:06 pm to
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Then get thee to another thread, Mr. Authority.



Still anxiously waiting your reply to my question involving 3rd string quarterbacks and snaps during games. Sitting on the edge of my seat.
Posted by Danielsu21
Dallas
Member since Aug 2012
437 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 5:07 pm to
I'm gonna go with we run a multiple offense.. Not really a playbook you can just pick up and head out on the field

Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70949 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 5:08 pm to
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I'm not saying that. Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. I don't know. What I'm saying is, the head coach (who, as I've mentioned, happens to be the winningest in school history) had access to all the information. He also has a superb record to back up his judgment. You do not. Nor do I.


I love the man. Hope he coaches us for the next century. But we all recall the clock management issues a few years back. That TD throw against AU where we could have easily kicked a FG. He has been known to have Tiger fans wondering wtf goes on in that head of his. We have the right to question decisions he makes. It doesn't mean we're against him.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 5:09 pm to
I don't have a problem with questioning him. I think it's odd to do it today though.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 5:10 pm to
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Anyone not blinded by complete and utter homerism can see that ZM is and was a better QB. You can gather that from watching what's most important, the games. You don't need to be at practice to draw that conclusion.

Maybe I wasn't watching the same games as you, but I didn't notice ZM in many games last season. So how can you assume he was the best QB on the team last year? Is he playing better now than our QBs played last season? Yes. But he's had 8+ months of practice as the #1 QB on the roster. He's had all that time to work with the first team. He didn't have any of that experience last year. It's hard for me to imagine that he hasn't made improvements in the last 8 months.

So, basically, you're assuming he was this good last year. Why should I trust you over CLM? What's your record as a head coach?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70949 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 5:10 pm to
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why are we even having a discussion when you know all the answers?


So....ZM or JL would have been running the option...ok. I'm sorry for assuming our ridculously slow 2nd string QB would not be running the ball. You are now arguing for the sake of arguing.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
44592 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 5:10 pm to
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behind dumb and dumber


not getting where Lee was some terrible QB last year. he had a few bad plays vs. Bama and deserved to be benched in that game, but the Lee of 2010 and '11 was a much better QB than he'd been earlier in his career.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 5:11 pm to
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So....ZM or JL would have been running the option...ok. I'm sorry for assuming our ridculously slow 2nd string QB would not be running the ball. You are now arguing for the sake of arguing.



He gave us a running threat so his playbook was a bit more versatile, but to say that the offense was going to be completely different isn't accurate IMO.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 5:12 pm to
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Maybe I wasn't watching the same games as you, but I didn't notice ZM in many games last season. So how can you assume he was the best QB on the team last year? Is he playing better now than our QBs played last season? Yes. But he's had 8+ months of practice as the #1 QB on the roster. He's had all that time to work with the first team. He didn't have any of that experience last year. It's hard for me to imagine that he hasn't made improvements in the last 8 months.


Pretty much this.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70949 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 5:13 pm to
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Maybe I wasn't watching the same games as you, but I didn't notice ZM in many games last season. So how can you assume he was the best QB on the team last year? Is he playing better now than our QBs played last season? Yes. But he's had 8+ months of practice as the #1 QB on the roster. He's had all that time to work with the first team. He didn't have any of that experience last year. It's hard for me to imagine that he hasn't made improvements in the last 8 months. So, basically, you're assuming he was this good last year. Why should I trust you over CLM? What's your record as a head coach?


So you think that ZM was 3rd string worthy last year? You honestly think he was worse than JL and JJ last year? Les Miles aside, I want to know what YOU think.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70949 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 5:15 pm to
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but to say that the offense was going to be completely different isn't accurate IMO.


Do you remember the first 8 games? Granted, we still ran the shite out of the ball. I'll give you that. LSU gonna LSU.

And they were 2 completely different styles of QB. To think they'd be used in the same way is absurd.
This post was edited on 9/9/12 at 5:17 pm
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 5:16 pm to
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So you think that ZM was 3rd string worthy last year? You honestly think he was worse than JL and JJ last year? Les Miles aside, I want to know what YOU think.

I'll preface my answer by saying that I'm not a football expert. Do I think ZM was better than JL or JJ last year? I'd probably say yes.

But, seeing as I'm not an expert and all, I trust the judgment of CLM and the other ITK coaches more than my own.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 5:17 pm to
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Do you remember the first 8 games? Granted, we still ran the shite out of the ball. I'll give you that. LSU gonna LSU.





We ran for 2800 yards as a team. That was our identity. Was our offensive gameplan going to be different with any of those quarterbacks outside of JJ providing us with more of a running option?
Posted by snakanator
Member since Sep 2010
634 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 5:21 pm to
Let it go
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70949 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 5:21 pm to
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I'll preface my answer by saying that I'm not a football expert. Do I think ZM was better than JL or JJ last year? I'd probably say yes. But, seeing as I'm not an expert and all, I trust the judgment of CLM and the other ITK coaches more than my own


And I'll say that you don't have to be an expert to see who the better QB was last year. If we don't start ZM because he's new, and CLM wants the seniors to have a chance to be drafted and have a great senior year, ok. That's dumb, but happens often. I'd even understand if it was because the unity of the team being effected with a brand new guy being inserted. But to honestly think that CLM really thought JJ or JL possessed more talent than ZM in the passing game, is an insult to CLM.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 5:21 pm to
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It's hard for me to imagine that he hasn't made improvements in the last 8 months.




We can only hope that in another month, 2, or 3 that Mett is even better than he is today.

And next yr...if he returns he should be even better.

I know...conjecture.

Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 5:23 pm to
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This is not hindsight. I thought this the entire year understanding what an underwhelming performer Mr. Jefferson was. LM really needs to explain that very curious decision.


#1-no one is talking about your hindsight. you are irrelevant

#2-LM doesn't need to explain anything to you. you are irrelevant.

of the hundreds of thousands of Tiger supporters, you mean nothing. i mean nothing. if you disagree, pick up your phone and call LM and inform him he needs to explain to you why he played JJ last year. maybe he will think you are worth telling that even if i don't.
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 5:24 pm to
JJ obviously had pics.It's the only reasonable explanation.In all seriousness,Mett should have seen more action last season.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 5:24 pm to
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Let it go


Are you not the least bit curious? I do not think any fan could ever let what happened in Jan "go". What CLM did in that game makes no sense. None.
This post was edited on 9/9/12 at 5:25 pm
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