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re: If you are looking forward at all, then you should like what you see.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:17 am to PaperTiger
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:17 am to PaperTiger
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Are Oklahoma fans calling for Lincoln Riley to be fired after their worst loss ever...to Iowa State
Well they only lost by 7, not 30.
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Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:17 am to Dudebro2
We have to recruit well this year, that's the bottom line. A top ten class with strong OL,DL numbers is a must. That was suppose to be CEO strength.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:22 am to Blanky6715
So? They also have one of the best QBs in football.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:23 am to Midtiger farm
I meant big 12 title.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:26 am to Space Cowboy
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Uhm did he say playoffs? As I didn't see it.
Uhm, he said competing for titles. You have to get to the playoffs in order to compete for titles, you dumb motherfricker. It isn't even worth reading the rest of your dishonest bullshite.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:26 am to Rickdaddy4188
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none of those teams are even close to program lsu is. good god how the fricking goal posts have been moved.
That's debatable and that's before Miles left. Each one of those programs has accomplished just as much as LSU. To argue that is dumb.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:36 am to Dudebro2
Sorry, but O is not a coach that will lead anyone to championships. He's not an Xs and Os guy and he's not an inspirational, unifying, CEO-type of coach. It's possible he can win the confidence of his coordinators and players, but very unlikely.
Without elite coordinators he is toast and losing seasons will follow. He needs to do something to repair his relationships with Canada and (probably) Aranda. Those guys did not come here for all the drama and chaos that is going on. We could well see an 8-4 year this year (which is probably best-case scenario) and have both coordinators leave. Next year, Ensminger would be OC and we'd need to replace the DC (with a guy who wouldn't be anywhere near Aranda's level). That's a recipe for a 4-win season.
Alleva needs to be fired this year. Once the new AD is in place, we need to have a real search - negotiate with several candidates from both college and pro positions. Pay top dollar. LSU wants a championship-level coach.
That's our way forward.
Without elite coordinators he is toast and losing seasons will follow. He needs to do something to repair his relationships with Canada and (probably) Aranda. Those guys did not come here for all the drama and chaos that is going on. We could well see an 8-4 year this year (which is probably best-case scenario) and have both coordinators leave. Next year, Ensminger would be OC and we'd need to replace the DC (with a guy who wouldn't be anywhere near Aranda's level). That's a recipe for a 4-win season.
Alleva needs to be fired this year. Once the new AD is in place, we need to have a real search - negotiate with several candidates from both college and pro positions. Pay top dollar. LSU wants a championship-level coach.
That's our way forward.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:36 am to UpToPar
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Space Cowboy
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There’s no way you really believe the shite you say. Nobody is that stupid.
Oh he believes every word of that garbage he spews. He'd make a good case study in brainwashing.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:37 am to Goldrush25
Or Space Cowboy is a grad student employee on LSU's staff who posts pro-O stuff as part of his job? Just speculating.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 10:34 am to PaperTiger
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That's debatable
when Dabo was hired Clemson hadn't won the acc since 2001. they had 1 top 20 finish from 1991- dabo hiring.
before miles got to oklahoma state they had season above .500 frok 1989-2001.
tcu was a mid major.
virginia tech wasnt even in a damn conference when Beamer took over.
O took over a program with 3 nationa title game appearances in 15 years amd 2 national titles. he took over a program with 10 wins 8 of 11 years(ues im counting mcneese)
only a dumbass would day its debateble of lsu was a better program than...
clemson when they hired dabo
tcu when they hired GP.
va tech when they hired beamer.
good god the mentalgymnastics needed to make the claim you made is astounding.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 10:38 am to PaperTiger
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Each one of those programs has accomplished just as much as LSU. To argue that is dumb.
not when they hired those coaches.
to say they were is dumb as frick.
Clemson when they hired Dabo..
1 top 20 finish in almost 2 decades.
hadnt won a conference title since 1991
TCU HIRING GP
was a mid major
Va tech hiring beamer
was an independent .
and no Clemson has not achieved what lsu has.
from 2000-2015 lsu had more top 10 finishes than Clemson's entire history.
i wont even mention Tcu and Va tech because its absurd to say either has accomplished what lsu has.
you do realize that you can look this shite up before posting, right
This post was edited on 10/9/17 at 10:40 am
Posted on 10/9/17 at 10:42 am to Dudebro2
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If you are looking forward at all, then you should like what you see.
All I see are a few tense years on the Coaching Changes board.
Thus far, I'm not impressed with what O has put on the field.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 10:45 am to Dudebro2
One point win on a missed extra point to the worst florida team in several years = Playoffs next year ba ba!!!
Posted on 10/9/17 at 10:49 am to Rickdaddy4188
How many would hire a HC who in his first season at his last two college Head Coaching gigs lost to UAB and U L Monroe? The LSU HC with the best record in LSU history blew a 21 pt lead in his first year and lost the game in overtime. Glad he is gone, aren't you?
Posted on 10/9/17 at 10:54 am to Space Cowboy
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Uhm did he say playoffs? As I didn't see it.
Competing for Championships doesn't include the playoffs?
Asking for a friend.
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Everything bad that has happened since the start of the season is a direct result of coach O's predecessor,
NO. Emphatically, no. Coach O is the coach. There is nothing Miles did 12 months ago to affect the Troy game this season.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 11:00 am to roygu
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How many would hire a HC who in his first season at his last two college Head Coaching gigs lost to UAB and U L Monroe
except that coach had already turned the Cleveland Browns into the #1 defense in the nfl and taken a program coming off sanctions and had a top 10 finish.
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The LSU HC with the best record in LSU history blew a 21 pt lead in his first year and lost the game in overtime. Glad he is gone, aren't you?
that coach had taken over a far worse program than O had at ole miss and had them winning 7,8,and 9 games.
ed orgeron has been allowed to make long term decisions at 2 programs and one ended up being the worst tenure ever at a program full of shite tenures amd the other is well on its way to being the same.
think of all the major screw ups we have had in 6 games with a career position coach running things. the lsu football program CAN NOT SURVIVE 3 years with a program destroying entity like ed orgeron.
ETA: you people comparing Ed oregron to nick saban need to be perma banned.
ed orgeron shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence as Dinardo let alone Saban.
This post was edited on 10/9/17 at 11:45 am
Posted on 10/9/17 at 11:07 am to Rickdaddy4188
This is what you said:
Sorry. But that statement is debatable. LSU ain't the program it once was and they haven't been a contender in a few years now.
What? Is this your go to saying? I did my research by looking it up. Everything I posted is fact. You think I remember what VT did before Beamer?
I also noticed how you aren't mentioning Gundy or Riley. Guess it doesn't support your argument.
There's a good number of examples out there. You just refuse to accept them and that's what it really boils down to
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none of those teams are even close to program lsu is. good god how the fricking goal posts have been moved.
Sorry. But that statement is debatable. LSU ain't the program it once was and they haven't been a contender in a few years now.
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you do realize that you can look this shite up before posting, right
What? Is this your go to saying? I did my research by looking it up. Everything I posted is fact. You think I remember what VT did before Beamer?
I also noticed how you aren't mentioning Gundy or Riley. Guess it doesn't support your argument.
There's a good number of examples out there. You just refuse to accept them and that's what it really boils down to
Posted on 10/9/17 at 11:12 am to PaperTiger
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If you are looking forward at all, then you should like what you see.
Damn ... O and Alleva got fired ... and, I missed it.
Surely, that's what this OP refers to.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 11:37 am to PaperTiger
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Sorry. But that statement is debatable. LSU ain't the program it once was and they haven't been a contender in a few years now.
none of those programs where neat the program lsu is when they hired their coaches. thats a fact.
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What? Is this your go to saying? I did my research by looking it up.
no you didnt.
when those programs made their hires they WERE NO WHERE NEAR THE PROGRAM LSU IS.
1.Clemson had 1 top 20 finish and hadnt won the acc in almost 20 years.
2.oklahoma state hand not won 10 games in over a decade
3 tcu was a mid major
4. va tech wasnt even in a conference
so yeah your research is absolute crap.
none of those programs are close to what lsu is when we hired our unqualified coach.
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also noticed how you aren't mentioning Gundy or Riley. Guess it doesn't support your argument
what? when gundy was hired OSU had not won 10 games in over a decade.
they finished ranked 1 time from 1989-2004.
i didnt mention them because it was obvious Oklahom sTate was no where near what lsu is today wheb hiring their coach.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 11:42 am to PaperTiger
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There's a good number of examples out there. You just refuse to accept them and that's what it really boils down to
what? there are zero examples of a coach with a the worst tenure ever at a program going on to win a title at another program.
so just so we are clear.....
15 YEARS PRIOR TO HIRING THE COACH
Clemson- 1 top 25 finish
TCu- mid major
va tech- independant
Oklahoma State- zero 10 win seasons and 1 season ranked
lsu- 2 national titles,3 national title game appearances, 4 sec titles,5 sec west titles, as many top 10 finishes as Clemsons entire existence.
only a dumbass would equate those programs upon the hiring of their unqualified hire to lsu.
try again
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