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re: If White stays: what could go wrong?

Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:09 am to
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:09 am to
Well it’s one less year of earning potential that could literally const him millions on the back end of his career.

That’s assuming he has no injury.
This post was edited on 12/12/18 at 11:10 am
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
17689 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:09 am to
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If this would happen I’d personally donate to the DevinWhiteFund.


What % of your donation would equal his potential earnings?...I thought so...
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93675 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:10 am to
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why are any of our draft prospects playing at all, regardless of their year in school, after we lose our second game each year?

What do you think the first question would be in the interviews at the combine? "Why did you quit on your team during the regular season?" NFL teams determine a player's competitiveness in the NFL after teams are eliminated from the playoffs.
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Such injuries happen very very rarely

Which is exactly what I said. So, you agree that it is a risk.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93675 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:12 am to
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Riding horses and 4 wheelers are risks. Perhaps he should stop doing those things too.

That's his decision. If it were me, I would 100% not do either of those until after I signed the contract.

Eta: Just to remind you want we're talking about here. This is the thread title...
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If White stays: what could go wrong?
This post was edited on 12/12/18 at 11:13 am
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28336 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:13 am to
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it’s not a matter of what could go wrong.

It’s a matter of there is nothing he can do to improve his situation and more things could happen that would have a negative impact than a positive one.


He's rated at the #1 ILB prospect in the draft and one of the top 5-10 OVERALL prospects. One thing he has to consider is that this looks to be a VERY weak offensive draft. That means there doesn't appear to be many (if any) surefire QB prospects to be over-drafted which would result in defensive players being pushed down the board. There also isn't a game changing RB (like a Fournette, Barkley, Elliot) or even OT or WR that is a sure top 10 pick. Without many big time offensive players to be drafted the value of defensive players increases.

It's very possible that he could come back to school, have an even better year than this or last season and see his overall prospect rating drop to 15-20 simply because (1) ILB isn't a "high demand" position (unlike QB, DE/OLB, OT, CB) and (2) there will be more highly ranked offensive prospects in next year's draft. It's VERY possible he could be picked LOWER than he would be this draft by mere virtue of the fact that there would be more top-flight offensive prospects in next year's draft.

In addition to his great play on the field, other aspects completely outside of his control have come together to make his "stock" maybe the highest it could possibly be. That has to be part of the consideration.

On the flip side, it's why a guy like Rashard Lawrence may be wise to return. This draft is loaded with interior defensive linemen prospects. Lawrence is probably about the 15th or so best prospect of that group. However, he might be the 5th or so best prospect of next year's group of DT's even if his play on the field next year doesn't improve at all from this season.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73492 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:13 am to
He should cut out any alcohol consumption as well. Too risky.
Posted by ILeaveAtHalftime
Member since Sep 2013
2889 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:15 am to
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And when a player is staring at a $10 million+ contract, virtually any risk is too much.


Devin was highly projected before the season started this year. Was the risk of playing Southeastern, Rice, or any game after Alabama any more or less risky than next season?

Again, I would go pro if I were him. But not because of the “risk” being any higher than it always has been. It’s because when someone offers you a multi year, $20 mil guaranteed contract you take it, no matter the profession or risk factors involved. The earlier you get that type of windfall the better off you can be down the road. Especially when you are 20 years old.
This post was edited on 12/12/18 at 11:17 am
Posted by GoldenBoy
Winning!
Member since Nov 2004
42010 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:15 am to
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see Jaylon Smith



You mean the guy that's starting for the Cowboys?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66463 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:16 am to
4 wheelers are prohibited in almost all NGl contracts.

I remember Stevan Ridley selling his when he got drafted.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:16 am to
Why do you have such a problem with people saying that staying in college is risky for a player of White's caliber given his projected draft position? Nothing about that is the least bit unreasonable.

Such a weird topic to be a contrarian.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:17 am to
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Just google Jaylon Smith. Not only did his insurance policy not pay out the full amount. But he slipped from a top 10 pick to the 2nd round which cost him millions. So.. hate to burst your bubble but their are injuries out there that would cause him to lose millions.


That Jaylon Smith was a top 10 pick is just an assumption, it’s no guarantee regardless of injury. Check the projected top 10 now and compare to the actual draft, you will find a lot of differences.

That said even if we assume he was a lock top the amount “lost” is also grossly exaggerated. The #9 pick that year was LB Leonard Floyd he signed for 4 yr $15.7M and a $9.67M signing bonus (guaranteed). Smith got 4/6.5 and Bonus 2.9 so if he was a top 10 pick he “lost” $6.7M, that’s a lot of money but so is $2.9M but as a 2nd rounder he will also be a free agent sooner.

Also remember Todd Gurley tore his knee vs Auburn in November That’s just 6-7 weeks sooner than Smith but was still top 10.
This post was edited on 12/12/18 at 11:22 am
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:18 am to
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Such a weird topic to be a contrarian.



Taking any side of this is weird. Just let it play out and see what HE and his FAMILY wants to do.
Posted by ILeaveAtHalftime
Member since Sep 2013
2889 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:19 am to
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Why do you have such a problem with people saying that staying in college is risky for a player of White's caliber given his projected draft position?


No one is arguing that it is a risk. The point is that it’s no more or less risky than any game he’s ever played in up to this point in his life.

Just say it’s a financial decision and move on. If it was truly about risk no highly projected player would play in meaningless games throughout their careers
Posted by TheWhitemamba16
Dallas
Member since Sep 2018
1063 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:20 am to
Because most people who have enough wealth to donate aren't posting on a message board at 11 in the morning.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:21 am to
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The UCF quarterback was in danger of losing his leg, Alex Smith May never play again


Alex Smith is 35 but if this your point then shouldn’t everyone quit? Guys have been paralyzed you could be killed in a car wreck. It’s amazing how people fret over extremely unlikely risks but miss those more likely to occur
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73492 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:22 am to
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4 wheelers are prohibited in almost all NGl contracts


Exactly. They are activities that have higher than usual risk of injury. Same with football. My point is that these things may weigh into Devin's decision making process, but he might still choose to have fun for another year. That doesn't make it a good or bad decision. It makes it his decision based on what he values most in life and what risks he is willing to take in order to be himself and enjoy his youth.
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4338 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:23 am to
With all the money in the NCAA and LSU this situation is fairly easy to insure.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93675 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:23 am to
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He should cut out any alcohol consumption as well. Too risky.

What risks do you see that would jeopardize his draft stock?
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93675 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:24 am to
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Why do you have such a problem with people saying that staying in college is risky for a player of White's caliber given his projected draft position? Nothing about that is the least bit unreasonable.

Just to bitch about something.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73492 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:24 am to
Alcohol consumption substantially increases risk of injury.
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