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re: If USC & Oklahoma go undefeated, are we this year's Auburn?
Posted on 8/1/08 at 7:48 pm to King Joey
Posted on 8/1/08 at 7:48 pm to King Joey
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Cincinnatti, Washington, TCU and UT-Chatanooga are such a murderer's row of juggernauts that those four games alone automatically overcome the differential from the other 9 games on the schedule is just laughable.
Exactly
Posted on 8/1/08 at 7:54 pm to H-Town Tiger
then you are wrong
I disagree. We will see how it plays out, but it is possible that Texas, Kansas, Texas Tech, and possibly Mizzou in the Big 12 title could all be top 10 teams at the time they play OU.
I disagree. We will see how it plays out, but it is possible that Texas, Kansas, Texas Tech, and possibly Mizzou in the Big 12 title could all be top 10 teams at the time they play OU.
Posted on 8/1/08 at 7:58 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
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Hey, dumbass, that's how you find the best and deepest conference, by seeing which conference has the best bowl record and OOC record. Idiot.
Speaking of which, how many winning bowl seasons has the the Big 10 had this decade? I'll hang up and listen
Posted on 8/1/08 at 8:00 pm to igoringa
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Speaking of which, how many winning bowl seasons has the the Big 10 had this decade? I'll hang up and listen
When did I say anything about the Big 10, there?
Posted on 8/1/08 at 8:00 pm to igoringa
I officially proclaim that the winner of the SEC championship game, regardless of record, should automatically be in the national championship game and I don't care if the SEC champ has two or three losses and there are three or four undefeated teams ahead of the SEC champ in the polls.
The SEC champ should be in regardless and I'm not kidding.
The SEC champ should be in regardless and I'm not kidding.
Posted on 8/1/08 at 8:02 pm to Geekboy
officially proclaim that the winner of the SEC championship game, regardless of record, should automatically be in the national championship game and I don't care if the SEC champ has two or three losses and there are three or four undefeated teams ahead of the SEC champ in the polls.
The SEC champ should be in regardless and I'm not kidding
We have a crackhead champion.
The SEC champ should be in regardless and I'm not kidding
We have a crackhead champion.
Posted on 8/1/08 at 8:03 pm to Geekboy
What if Tennessee would've won the SECCG last year, should they have gone to the NCG?
Posted on 8/1/08 at 8:10 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
Not that it will happen, but if an SEC team went undefeated or all the big teams had one loss, then a big 12 team and SEC team would get the nod because of the conference championship game (similar to LSU's help in 2003). OSU, USC, WVU might be the ones looking in. 12-1 sounds better than 11-1 IMHO. Whatever happens, I just want to see the Tigers whup some arse along the way.
Posted on 8/1/08 at 8:18 pm to zack7552
^ I don't think so. The OSU USC winner would get one of the slots.
Posted on 8/1/08 at 8:23 pm to Darts
Missouri yes, of the other 3, maybe 2, I doubt all 3, but check out TT and Kansas OOC, that will not help their rankings. because unlike LSU they have no track record. SEC teams have dominated the last 2 BCS CG, everyone is saying the SEC is by far the deepest conference, there is no way the defending national champs go undefeated and get left out, if you are think it hurt Auburn, the SEC wasn't nearly as deep in 2004, and the fact they went 7-5 they year before while USC and OU were NT contenders in 03.
This post was edited on 8/1/08 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 8/1/08 at 11:08 pm to H-Town Tiger
I'm ust glad the voters showed some sense last year by not putting Georgia in.
Just like OU getting in the dance in 2003. WTF! You didn't win your conference, but you have a shot at the national championship? How does that work? 2nd in the blah blah, and 1st in the nation.... Gimmie a freakin break.
Thats why Georgia had no business being there last year, and why we have a split title from 2003!
Just like OU getting in the dance in 2003. WTF! You didn't win your conference, but you have a shot at the national championship? How does that work? 2nd in the blah blah, and 1st in the nation.... Gimmie a freakin break.
Thats why Georgia had no business being there last year, and why we have a split title from 2003!
Posted on 8/2/08 at 12:44 am to JPLSU1981
Yes ... no matter what.. We are toast if that happens
Posted on 8/2/08 at 2:29 am to ShermanTxTiger
If last season taught college football fans (especially LSU fans) anything, it's "never say never".
If the tOSU vs. USC winner goes undefeated, they're in the BCSCG, pretty much guaranteed. If LSU goes undefeated, their fate rests largely on how their SEC opponents fare. If UGA lives up to the hype and has a solid season, it helps LSU. The same for Florida. If either of those two teams performs below expectations, LSU could be left out of the BCSCG even if the Tigers went undefeated. Reason: No top drawer OOC competition.
If the tOSU vs. USC winner goes undefeated, they're in the BCSCG, pretty much guaranteed. If LSU goes undefeated, their fate rests largely on how their SEC opponents fare. If UGA lives up to the hype and has a solid season, it helps LSU. The same for Florida. If either of those two teams performs below expectations, LSU could be left out of the BCSCG even if the Tigers went undefeated. Reason: No top drawer OOC competition.
Posted on 8/2/08 at 2:31 am to loweralabamatrojan
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If either of those two teams performs below expectations, LSU could be left out of the BCSCG even if the Tigers went undefeated. Reason: No top drawer OOC competition.
No undefeated SEC team will be left out of the NC game. This is not the Pac 10, this is the SEC.
Posted on 8/2/08 at 2:43 am to siliconvalleytiger
Think what you like, but be honest: LSU's title hopes last season were cemented with a win over a quality OOC opponent in Va Tech.
Aside from UF and UGA, the conference schedule doesn't stand out. If either of those teams tank, LSU could go undefeated and still get left out.
The ironic thing is, with LSU being ranked 6th in the country, the human polls would have LSU very near the top if not at the top if the Tigers went undefeated.
It's the BCS computers that will make or break you at that point, and that's a lot to do with SOS and how your opponents do.
LSU needs both UF and UGA to remain top 10 teams to have a shot, IMHO.
Aside from UF and UGA, the conference schedule doesn't stand out. If either of those teams tank, LSU could go undefeated and still get left out.
The ironic thing is, with LSU being ranked 6th in the country, the human polls would have LSU very near the top if not at the top if the Tigers went undefeated.
It's the BCS computers that will make or break you at that point, and that's a lot to do with SOS and how your opponents do.
LSU needs both UF and UGA to remain top 10 teams to have a shot, IMHO.
Posted on 8/2/08 at 5:22 am to loweralabamatrojan
don't forget Auburn.
Posted on 8/2/08 at 6:01 am to zeebo
I hate to say it, because I rather like Auburn (I go up for a game or two every year), but I don't think Auburn is going to be "all that" this season.
They remind me of BYU out west, a solid team year in and year out, but seldom if ever spectacular.
They remind me of BYU out west, a solid team year in and year out, but seldom if ever spectacular.
Posted on 8/2/08 at 8:09 am to jbirds1
There's no way they keep out an SEC team
You cant say that for sure. IE. Alburn in 04.
I think that a team like Texas,USC,OSU,ND, so on and so forth. If they start at 1 or 2 and go unbeaten they wont be jumped.
You cant say that for sure. IE. Alburn in 04.
I think that a team like Texas,USC,OSU,ND, so on and so forth. If they start at 1 or 2 and go unbeaten they wont be jumped.
Posted on 8/2/08 at 9:23 am to loweralabamatrojan
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LSU's title hopes last season were cemented with a win over a quality OOC opponent in Va Tech.
It wasn't that we beat a quality OOC opponent, its that we beat the ever-loving crap out of a quality OOC opponent.
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Aside from UF and UGA, the conference schedule doesn't stand out. If either of those teams tank, LSU could go undefeated and still get left out.
Auburn is top 15, USC could be good and then there is the SEC CG. Also define tank. Theoretically its possible both UGA and UF go 7-5, but in reality, that's not gonna happen any more than So. Cal going 7-5.
LSU is #6, we play 2 teams in front of us and 2 other teams in front of us play each other. Human polls make up 2/3 of the BCS. I suppose its possible the entire SEC could tank, and the USC-tOSU winner and OU could go undefeated and the voters leave the undefeated defending BSC C out, but then again its possible I could buy the winning lotto ticket tonight, so excuse we I have to go get some tickets.
Posted on 8/2/08 at 9:29 am to cj2002
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You cant say that for sure. IE. Alburn in 04
Total different set of circumstances. AU was comming off a 7-5 season, USC and OU were coming season were they finished in the top 3, that makes a difference. Also the SEC was not as strong in 2004 as it appears to be in 2008. I*n 2004 the SEC had 2 coaches with a NC (Saban and Fulmer) now there are 5, (plus Tubs who went 14-0).
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I think that a team like Texas,USC,OSU,ND, so on and so forth. If they start at 1 or 2 and go unbeaten they wont be jumped.
Any team that starts 1 or 2 and goes unbeaten will play in the BCS CG.
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