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re: If SW was hanging on to avoid the pressure of rehiring WW...
Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:52 pm to TopWaterTiger
Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:52 pm to TopWaterTiger
His very words on the reasons were “black cloud of negativity” which is optics and make believe.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 3:53 pm
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 4:24 pm to TopWaterTiger
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But once he found out Wade lied to him about it, he really didn't have much of a choice.
I remember reading about Wade lying to Woodward here on the Rant but nowhere else. Is there an official source of this assertion or a quote from Woodward?
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 3/19/25 at 4:36 pm to LSUfan2008
Woodward is a lazy, fat POS.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 4:38 pm to GumboPot
LSU is also sending McMahon a message. McMahon says he needs additional resources (NIL). LSU says it will give him the additional resources. When/if McMahon sinks next year, then LSU can say, we gave you the support that you asked for, you didn't succeed despite that support, and we're letting you go. It also shows the next coach that there's administrative support, despite what others think to the contrary.
It's being run as a business, which isn't the worst thing in the world. An employer gives an employee all the tools to be successful, but if he or she is not, it's on the employee and not the employer. The negative, obviously, is that most any other LSU coach who goes 14-40 in the SEC would have been let go by now, yet LSU fans will have to suffer through another craptastic season before there's a change.
If there's a silver lining, at least Will Wade won't be coaching in the SEC. Weird timing, though. His team has a chance to make a little noise in the NCAA tournament. Now you have to wonder how motivated McNeese will be against Clemson, which once wanted to hire Will Wade if Brad Brownell continued to struggle but now watches him go to a conference rival.
It's being run as a business, which isn't the worst thing in the world. An employer gives an employee all the tools to be successful, but if he or she is not, it's on the employee and not the employer. The negative, obviously, is that most any other LSU coach who goes 14-40 in the SEC would have been let go by now, yet LSU fans will have to suffer through another craptastic season before there's a change.
If there's a silver lining, at least Will Wade won't be coaching in the SEC. Weird timing, though. His team has a chance to make a little noise in the NCAA tournament. Now you have to wonder how motivated McNeese will be against Clemson, which once wanted to hire Will Wade if Brad Brownell continued to struggle but now watches him go to a conference rival.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 3/19/25 at 4:44 pm to EscambiaTiger
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LSU is also sending McMahon a message. You say you need additional resources (NIL). We'll give you the additional resources. When/if McMahon sinks next year, the LSU can say, we gave you the support that you asked for, you didn't succeed despite that support, and we're letting you go. It also shows the next coach that there's administrative support, despite what others think to the contrary.
They told the world they waited 3 years to give McMahon support so no that is definitely not a positive look for the athletic department.
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It's being run as a business
Not at all. A good business wouldn't waste the potential of it's #2 money earner.
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Now you have to wonder how motivated McNeese will be against Clemson
Why wouldn't they be? They knew it wasn't a long term situation and I'm sure they all want to go out with a bang.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 3/19/25 at 4:45 pm to NIH
Another year of apathy setting in. Then you have to turn around and actually make the right hire, which historically speaking here has a pretty good shot of failure. Just seems like you’re running the risk of just completely destroying a program on life support
If MM were even close to building a winner, you might be able to sell this NIL bullshite but he’s been historically bad, not even meeting the most modest of the expectations. Does anyone legitimately believe he’s capable of building a tourney team in one offseason? It’s a bad plan. frick you scott, fat fricking frick
If MM were even close to building a winner, you might be able to sell this NIL bullshite but he’s been historically bad, not even meeting the most modest of the expectations. Does anyone legitimately believe he’s capable of building a tourney team in one offseason? It’s a bad plan. frick you scott, fat fricking frick
Posted on 3/19/25 at 4:47 pm to LSUfan2008
Dude screwed up the biggest revenue drivers the athletic department has. Gave a bad contract to an aging football coach and canned a proven coach in basketball.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 3/19/25 at 4:48 pm to EscambiaTiger
If it’s being run like a business he’s doing a poor job. Football profit was down 3million last year while he dumped 20mil on lights nobody wanted and weren’t needed. Basketball hit a decade low in profit and is losing 400-500k a year since McMahon was hired for a program that pulls in about 1.5-3mil in its good years. Baseball lost 1.9 mil last season where it was turning a profit of 300-600k less than a decade ago.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 3/19/25 at 4:51 pm to TheRouxGuru
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Be careful what you ask for
The irony of this statement being unironically used in a thread about firing Wade and hiring McMahon.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 4:53 pm to JR Hamilsbach
We have fans who act as if Woody wasn’t the AD when Orgeron was here. They want you to believe that he only came in after Orgeron sunk the program when it actually happened under his watch.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 4:54 pm to Madking
What specifically did I say that was false?
Posted on 3/19/25 at 4:55 pm to PP7 for heisman
Your description of the NOA situation
Posted on 3/19/25 at 5:00 pm to GumboPot
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But once he found out Wade lied to him about it, he really didn't have much of a choice.
I remember reading about Wade lying to Woodward here on the Rant but nowhere else. Is there an official source of this assertion or a quote from Woodward?
Good question. I've heard it here so long I never saw an official source either.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 5:02 pm to TopWaterTiger
Yea it’s a rant creation. They took the lie Alleva was fired over and conflated it with the Woody situation.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 5:05 pm to Madking
Yep fat Scott was AD with Ed O got the major contract and Bo p had a massive contract thanks to him. Then you have giving BK a retirement gift.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 5:07 pm to EscambiaTiger
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LSU is also sending McMahon a message. McMahon says he needs additional resources (NIL). LSU says it will give him the additional resources. When/if McMahon sinks next year, then LSU can say, we gave you the support that you asked for, you didn't succeed despite that support, and we're letting you go. It also shows the next coach that there's administrative support, despite what others think to the contrary.
It's being run as a business, which isn't the worst thing in the world. An employer gives an employee all the tools to be successful, but if he or she is not, it's on the employee and not the employer. The negative, obviously, is that most any other LSU coach who goes 14-40 in the SEC would have been let go by now, yet LSU fans will have to suffer through another craptastic season before there's a change.
If there's a silver lining, at least Will Wade won't be coaching in the SEC. Weird timing, though. His team has a chance to make a little noise in the NCAA tournament. Now you have to wonder how motivated McNeese will be against Clemson, which once wanted to hire Will Wade if Brad Brownell continued to struggle but now watches him go to a conference rival.
I'm fine with all this. I'm just still bitter about the 2-3 year WW witch-hunt by Pat Forde and Dick Vital that culminated into Woodward finally firing WW at a time when WW had the basketball program fun.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 5:07 pm to Big4SALTbro
Something nobody wants to talk about is the fact that he knew Bo wasn’t even interviewed and that the players and staff were upset about the hire then when O admitted it publicly he pretended to be outraged.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 5:10 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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When was the last time an AD absolutely burnt to the ground a major sport at LSU?
When was the last time any school fired a coach for cause and then rehired him?
Posted on 3/19/25 at 5:25 pm to Ponchy Tiger
Arkansas Bobby Petrino- fired with cause and now hired back
Posted on 3/19/25 at 5:27 pm to Madking
It’s almost like he told O he was hiring him.
Either Scott didn’t have the back bone to tell O 3 million for a washed guy with no options isn’t happening or worse the AD made the hire not the coach
Either Scott didn’t have the back bone to tell O 3 million for a washed guy with no options isn’t happening or worse the AD made the hire not the coach
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