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re: if our D only would have attacked Newton like this...

Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:44 pm to
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:44 pm to
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Not as effective? HAHA.

Quit talking out of your arse. Though I am sure you will read this, yet I know you have no response for this already.


It's funny how important it is to you to never be wrong...on a message board.

Grow up and admit when you are wrong. LSU's gameplan wasn't perfect. But, this "all you have to do is be aggressive" stance is oversimplistic to say the least.

The single thing that helped Bama in the first half was that their offense controlled the ball...that was much more important than being aggressive on defense.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:46 pm to
quote:

don't think LSU's D necessarily failed us in that game, I'm sorry I may be in the minority but we stopped them when we had too.........we had a chance to win the game and our O blew it.


well they ran 52 times, and got 8.5 YPC

do the math.

I dont think the kids failed us. I think they werent prepared. Thats not their fault .


We never did sell out to stop the run that game. never did.....
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:47 pm to
quote:

It's funny how important it is to you to never be wrong...on a message board.

Grow up and admit when you are wrong. LSU's gameplan wasn't perfect. But, this "all you have to do is be aggressive" stance is oversimplistic to say the least.

The single thing that helped Bama in the first half was that their offense controlled the ball...that was much more important than being aggressive on defense.


I would have to agree with you. When Hanks caught that touchdown McElroy was 10-10 and they were running the ball very effectively. Once Auburn started to play with some emotion on defense and Fairley started to exert himself, they made a couple of plays, put Alabama on their heels, and allowed Auburn's offense to be the dominant force they've been all year.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

well they ran 52 times, and got 8.5 YPC

do the math.

I dont think the kids failed us. I think they werent prepared. Thats not their fault .


We never did sell out to stop the run that game. never did.....


And we sold out to stop the run and Masoli and that didn't really help us either.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:49 pm to
quote:

The single thing that helped Bama in the first half was that their offense controlled the ball...that was much more important than being aggressive on defense.


Exactly.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:49 pm to
[quote]It's funny how important it is to you to never be wrong...on a message board.

Ahhh so you do post again

but of course fail to address that you were wrong.

and you want me to admit I am wrong?(about some phantom thing I said in this thread, apparently?)



Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:51 pm to
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Ahhh so you do post again

but of course fail to address that you were wrong.

and you want me to admit I am wrong?(about some phantom thing I said in this thread, apparently?)


I guess stubborness will get you to 115,000 posts in about 7 years.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:52 pm to
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The single thing that helped Bama in the first half was that their offense controlled the ball...that was much more important than being aggressive on defense.


Auburn had 6 drives, and punted on 5 of them. They went 3 and out on 4 of them.

Alabama had 6 drives in the 1st half as well.

Ball control when teams have the same amount of possessions


Seems to me the Bama D controlled things. Their offense happened to be playing very well too.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:56 pm to
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Auburn had 6 drives, and punted on 5 of them. They went 3 and out on 4 of them.

Alabama had 6 drives in the 1st half as well.

Ball control when teams have the same amount of possessions


Seems to me the Bama D controlled things. Their offense happened to be playing very well too.


And Alabama ran 13 more plays than them on offense in the first half.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285047 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:56 pm to
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I guess stubborness will get you to 115,000 posts in about 7 years.



Dude, i cant help you if you cannot think for yourself or ever come to the realization that not everything a coaching staff does is the right thing.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:58 pm to
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Dude, i cant help you if you cannot think for yourself or ever come to the realization that not everything a coaching staff does is the right thing.


Don't get upset because I made an obvious joke. And how many times have I stated that the defense played poorly in that game? frick dude.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285047 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:58 pm to
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And Alabama ran 13 more plays than them on offense in the first half.




you mean to tell me that because Alabama's defense was forcing (4) 3 and outs on 6 possessions in the 1st half, that Alabama's offense ran more plays than Auburn did in the same amount of possessions!!!!!!!!!! NO WAY!!!!!


you people really are fricking stupid. Sorry for being blunt.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:59 pm to
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you mean to tell me that because Alabama's defense was forcing (4) 3 and outs on 6 possessions in the 1st half, that Alabama's offense ran more plays than Auburn did in the same amount of possessions!!!!!!!!!! NO WAY!!!!!


you people really are fricking stupid. Sorry for being blunt.


Yes, I realize that would be the reply post. Just noting that their offense controlled the ball when they did have it.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 10:00 pm to
And I stated that because the number of offensive plays by both teams in the second half was almost identical. I just was noting that they did a better job of keeping them off the field in the first half.
This post was edited on 11/26/10 at 10:01 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
285047 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 10:02 pm to
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Just noting that their offense controlled the ball when they did have it.



They did, but it had nothing to do with the inadequacy of the Auburn offense in the 1st half like moneyg says.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59393 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 10:02 pm to
quote:

Ahhh so you do post again

but of course fail to address that you were wrong.

and you want me to admit I am wrong?(about some phantom thing I said in this thread, apparently?)


I don't think I've been wrong in this thread, but maybe I missed something. Either way, it doesn't bother me. I've been wrong before and I'll be wrong again.

My opinion on this topic is the "All you have to do is be aggressive to stop Auburn" is a flawed and oversimplistic point of view.

Do I think LSU should have been a bit more aggressive at points against Auburn? Absolutely. Do I think it was a debacle and the cause of the loss? Absolutely not.

That's one of the signs of a typical rantard IMO. Everything that goes wrong is the result of a stupid decision made by the coaching staff that anyone with half a brain would have done differently. In real life, things sometimes go wrong...and it's not always the result of some major mistake.

In my opinion, Auburn was the better team. And still, we had the ball at midfield in the 4th quarter in a tie game on the road against a team that ultimately ran the gauntlet of the SEC. It wasn't pretty. The game probably didn't go exactly the way the coaching staff had hoped. Yet, there we were in position to win the game.

Go ahead and attempt to support your position more. It only makes you look worse and I am enjoying it.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59393 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 10:07 pm to
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Ball control when teams have the same amount of possessions


Possessions kind of work that way. Are you really suggesting that number of possessions is a meaningful stat?
Posted by rosiebean
Member since Nov 2007
2089 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 10:09 pm to
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talk reason?

you couldn't even put a simple statement of mine into context.

First, congrats for mostly spelling the words correctly this go around.

Second, context?

Here's your quote:

"I simply observed that Bama's D played Auburns offense to perfection. The stats show that."

All I did was reply that the most important stat was the final score...in which Auburn scored *more* points against Bama than Bama scored against Auburn. IMO, that's not playing Auburn's offense to 'perfection'.

Let me also add the obvious point that LSU held Auburn to fewer points than Bama did.

Yes, yes, yes, before you start bitching about my vagina again, I'll say upfront that Auburn took a knee in the final seconds instead of taking the final TD, which would have made their point total against us higher (duh)...but are you really going to argue over a hypothetical two-point difference?

I could give two shits about how many yards we let Cam Newton gain, the fact is, we held Auburn to roughly the same point total that Bama did.

And we both lost.

I'll stand by waiting for you to insult me because I'm female again. I'll also take note that quite a few posters here don't agree with your position either. Hey, but maybe they're all females.

Or maybe you can't take someone disagreeing with you without resorting to perceived insults.

Meanwhile, I'll continue to keep my opinion that our D did a fair job (not great, but fair) against Auburn, and if our O had played a bit better, we'd have won. You have fun going on about Bama's 'perfection'.
Posted by blackjackjackson
fourth dimension
Member since May 2008
7681 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 11:48 pm to
U GO GIRL,

i know lester is a fired h.s. football coach who knows more than ANY coaching staff in the universe. he just likes to take his cancerous attitude out on lsu. probably, b/c the la school system fired his arse for drunkeness.

i only say this b/c my opinion is better than lester's opinion.
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