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re: if our D only would have attacked Newton like this...
Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:16 pm to John McClane
Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:16 pm to John McClane
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I'm with LE.
It's not just about the Auburn game. It's our total inability to stop the spread as evidenced by the auburn AND ole miss games.
Sure, Cam made a couple of big throws, but one was pretty horrible and the safety should have made a play on it. Bama made mistakes as LSU did. I would have just been more comfortable making Cam throw and forcing Auburn to rely on converting low percentage plays rather than putting up over 400 yards on the ground.
Maybe we should just all come to the reality that Cam Newton is good enough to overcome almost any defense.
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Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:16 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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are truly the last of the negapussies who haven't crawled under their collective rocks yet
Pretty much. This dude was just WAITING to pounce on our coaching staff...and then Bama (who has God as the coach) collapses.
Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:20 pm to LSUtoOmaha
I wasn't waiting on anything. If i respect any of LSU coaches, it is Chavis.
It was just a simple observation that couldnt be overlooked. He's been very good at LSU, but that is probably his worst game.
Consider it is keeping us out of the SECCG, I'd say it is something that is worth pointing out.
It was just a simple observation that couldnt be overlooked. He's been very good at LSU, but that is probably his worst game.
Consider it is keeping us out of the SECCG, I'd say it is something that is worth pointing out.
Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:22 pm to Lester Earl
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Consider it is keeping us out of the SECCG, I'd say it is something that is worth pointing out.
Defense isn't the only think keeping us out of the title game.
Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:23 pm to Tiger Authority
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Defense isn't the only think keeping us out of the title game.
I'll say it again: if we had the QB play then that we have now, we beat Auburn.
Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:24 pm to Tiger Authority
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Defense isn't the only think keeping us out of the title game.
When defense is your calling card, and when you have 1 loss and give up over 500 yards of offense to a certain team in that 1 loss, I'd say that is the main reason.
Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:24 pm to Lester Earl
I love how people don't understand that you were praising their first half defense, that it doesn't mean they kept the same style throughout, idiots
Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:26 pm to Lester Earl
You're still not getting it.
We could have given up all those yards and won if the QB's play at Auburn the way they played against Alabama.
We could have given up all those yards and won if the QB's play at Auburn the way they played against Alabama.
Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:26 pm to josh336
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I love how people don't understand that you were praising their first half defense, that it doesn't mean they kept the same style throughout, idiots
yes, it is quite hard for some of these guys to grasp.
their D was playing lights out, and was simply pointing that out.
People are acting like I said Alabama was going to shut them out and win the game outright or something.
Ive been told to eat crow like 10 times over some phantom promise I made earlier in this thread.
Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:26 pm to Lester Earl
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When defense is your calling card, and when you have 1 loss and give up over 500 yards of offense to a certain team in that 1 loss, I'd say that is the main reason.
When you play a team that is so strong offensively like Auburn the best thing you can do is keep them off the field. We were unable to do that, and our defense was run into the ground. It works both ways. I know you are struggling to blame the defense, and they certainly have a hand in this, but who has stopped Auburn and who honestly could?
I think LSU and Alabama are two of the better defenses out there, and both do very different things as far as personnel. And neither could stop him, the game just ended.
Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:27 pm to josh336
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I love how people don't understand that you were praising their first half defense, that it doesn't mean they kept the same style throughout, idiots
And I love how everyone is of the impression that Saban did a 180 from the first to second half because Auburn completed a few deep passes.
Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:28 pm to Lester Earl
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yes, it is quite hard for some of these guys to grasp.
their D was playing lights out, and was simply pointing that out.
People are acting like I said Alabama was going to shut them out and win the game outright or something.
Ive been told to eat crow like 10 times over some phantom promise I made earlier in this thread.
Dude if you don't realize why you look like a jackass right now I don't think anyone but this josh kid can help you.
Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:32 pm to Tiger Authority
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And I love how everyone is of the impression that Saban did a 180 from the first to second half because Auburn completed a few deep passes.
It was more Auburn adapting than Saban. Both offensively and defensively.
thought that was pretty obvious.
Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:34 pm to Lester Earl
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It was more Auburn adapting than Saban. Both offensively and defensively.
thought that was pretty obvious.
So Auburn adapted, Alabama stayed the same (you know, attacking and all that stuff that you've spent eight pages trying to explain to all of us), and Auburn started to dictate how Nick Saban called the game? So Saban stopped playing an attacking defense, starting giving more safety help because Cam completed a touchdown pass in the second half on a deep ball the guy almost dropped, and the rest is history?
Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:39 pm to Tiger Authority
We attacked Newton with a philosophy that put us with a chance to win..........
Chavis's run D gave up 440 but you have to remember how the game played out............LSU had Auburn pinned inside the 5 4 times so LSU said drive the length of the field running the ball to beat us........it resulted in 28 pts........That is a winnable effort if your offense has any semblance of consistency.
Chavis's run D gave up 440 but you have to remember how the game played out............LSU had Auburn pinned inside the 5 4 times so LSU said drive the length of the field running the ball to beat us........it resulted in 28 pts........That is a winnable effort if your offense has any semblance of consistency.
Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:39 pm to Tiger Authority
You really are reaching here.
i posted this on the last page.
this is what happened.
i posted this on the last page.
this is what happened.
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They did adjust very well.
They werent able to run the ball all game.
in the 2nd half they supplemented the running game with short swing passes, short hitches. That put them in 2nd and 3rd and short the whole 2nd half. That fits right into Newton's strength. He is money in short yardage.
I kick myself thinking what we could have done had we sold out to stop the run more. Like I said, our secondary is much better than Bama's. I would have trusted them against Newton through the air. Auburn's 2 biggest plays of the game were seemingly busted coverages anyway. Shame on Bama for not making those plays, it cost them the game.
Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:42 pm to Lester Earl
I don't think LSU's D necessarily failed us in that game, I'm sorry I may be in the minority but we stopped them when we had too.........we had a chance to win the game and our O blew it.
Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:42 pm to L S Usetheforce
Ive pointed out at least 3 times in this thread that our special teams saved us from this game getting real ugly.
Definitely was a winnable game. But when you rely on your defense to win games for you(like LSU had done the 7 or 8 games prior to AU), then you live by it, and you die by it.
It was just sad that our D never adjusted, even after halftime. They knew what was coming, and still couldnt stop it.
Definitely was a winnable game. But when you rely on your defense to win games for you(like LSU had done the 7 or 8 games prior to AU), then you live by it, and you die by it.
It was just sad that our D never adjusted, even after halftime. They knew what was coming, and still couldnt stop it.
Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:44 pm to Lester Earl
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It was just sad that our D never adjusted, even after halftime. They knew what was coming, and still couldnt stop it.
Again, we stopped Cam on numerous drives inside the 40...........
I'm not defending Chavis's failures against the 2 most talented spread qbs this year...........but for Cam Newton and Auburn 24 pts should get the other team the victory.
Posted on 11/26/10 at 9:44 pm to Lester Earl
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You really are reaching here.
i posted this on the last page.
this is what happened.
No I'm not reaching. I'm just wanting to know how far you're willing to continue to pin yourself into a corner based on a stupid knee jerk reaction post on the heels of a good defensive effort by Alabama in the first half that was unsustainable over the course of the game, not because of anything they really did, but because Auburn is that good offensively because Cam Newton is a freak of nature that nobody has found a way to stop, not even the best defensive mind (according to most) in college football.
Sure, we could have done things different in retrospect. But we chose a philosophy and it kept us in the game, plain and simple. Was it perfect, no, far from it. But would we have been gashed regardless, likely.
So I'm just of the opinion that their offense is better than the best defense out there. And our best hope would have been to keep him off the field.
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