re: If my calculations are correct only 11 Teams have won N C in Softball since 1982

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It’s seems your reading comprehension is lacking to understand the arguments being made

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Okay, I went back and re-read all your posts. I agree my comprehension of the arguments you were making was flawed. You weren’t directly holding LSU being passed by Florida, Alabama and Tennessee against Torina. Indirectly, I still believe that you are in the way you are interpreting the trajectory of the program.

So, first let me state the agreements on facts, then discuss the disagreement with the interpretation of those facts. I agree with you that LSU once was the top program in the conference. I agree with you that they have since been passed by Florida, Alabama, and Tennessee. I agree that Auburn and Arkansas have more recent conference titles, but I disagree that those translate to those programs surpassing LSU. Finally, I agree LSU has slipped both nationally and within conference since 2017. That is where the legitimate criticism lies.

The main issue I have with your interpretation of the facts is the implication that LSU has fallen as a program from where they were in the 1999-2004 time, at least with the implication that period was the height of the program. Your own surprise that Tennessee does not have more conference titles illustrates my point. Tennessee went to 7 WCWS in 11 years from 2005-2015, but won the conference regular season only once in that time frame. Likewise LSU went 4 times in 6 years from 2012-17 with no titles. Does that mean LSU was stronger than either program when they won 5 regular season titles in 6 years from 1999-2004 but only made the WCWS twice in that time span? No, it just means the conference was weaker at that point in time. More specifically, Florida and Alabama had not yet grown into by far the strongest programs the SEC has ever had. Not displacing them at the top from 2012-2017 does not mean that Torina did not build the program to its highest level at that point in time. The trajectory of the program under Torina was undeniably positive in her first 6 seasons.