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re: If Mr. Obese at Tennessee can turn them around at year two with a way more depleted

Posted on 10/10/22 at 5:06 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78168 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 5:06 pm to
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Only because you dismissed overall talent and brought in yet another selective qualifier.


No because you didn’t like my arguement so you pointed out a statistical Outlier. But you don’t want anyone to talk about whether that’s a good point or not.

Yes Auburn was untalented

No them winning a NC isn’t fricking normal.

How does that relate to Brian Kelly? Isn’t that the topic here? Do you think Chizik is a better HC?
This post was edited on 10/10/22 at 5:09 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66095 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 5:16 pm to
You brought up team groups not me. Your point didn’t hold water and when that was pointed out you tried to blame me for the direction you took the discussion. You’re arguing against a fact and it’s taking you in all kinds of other directions which don’t change that fact.
This post was edited on 10/10/22 at 5:18 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78168 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 5:25 pm to
I’ve made normal responses to things you e said in the conversations.

And when I do That you accuse me of setting up statesmen or changing the subject.

My original point stands. Notre Dame has produced a lot of OL, TE and not a lot of QB, RB, WR or CBS.

Positions that are somewhat important to winning a championship.

Alabama and Clemson and LSU and OSU have produced a decent amount of all of those. And Clemson may have less total players, they still had a ton of talented guys condensed on those championship teams.

So we can talk about Auburn, but we both know thats an outlier.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66095 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 5:28 pm to
They’ve had more QBs drafted than us. You keep branching off into other topics and applying standards that don’t hold up to the slightest scrutiny. Trying to blame me for your deflections and straw men is just sad.
This post was edited on 10/10/22 at 5:28 pm
Posted by 4LSUinSC
South Carolina
Member since Nov 2004
555 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 5:31 pm to
The truth police, you sir are wrong, Lane is poison to a program. Just ask Tennessee how Kiffin left them. They (Tennessee ) even had a community waste treatment plant named after Lane after he bailed out on the Volunteers. Lane is hated up there. I personally want a man with integrity, morality, and compassionate to those he’s in charge of such as Coach Kelly. Getting away from the Irish and choosing our tigers was the best thing to happen to both parties. Aligned folks ( love our AD for getting a man with quality characteristics, and put $$$ back into our football program ).
Geaux fighting tigers
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34201 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 5:46 pm to
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Will Kelly adapt? We will see!




Don't think so he's 4-12 against top 10 teams at Notre Dame and LSU. His offensive philosophy needs some modernization
Posted by TheTruthPolice
Mandeville
Member since Aug 2010
953 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 5:48 pm to
I would agree with you 10 years ago but Kelly and his refusal to adapt to a modern offense will be his undoing.
Posted by Tigersonfire
Pville
Member since Oct 2018
3027 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 5:49 pm to
Tennessee isn’t that good. Yes they bashed us but be realistic and level. They had 4 fumbles everyone of them bounced right back to them. A dropped east pic. LSU handed them 13 points before the pre game fly over was done and the game was over. And to say he had a more depleted roster than LSU is simply wrong.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78168 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 5:50 pm to
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They’ve had more QBs drafted than us.


Kizer 2017
Book 2021

Mettenburger 2014
Etling 2018
Burrow 2020

Oops.

Talent is the topic. I’m not branching offZ you just don’t like that you’re wrong.
This post was edited on 10/10/22 at 6:23 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66095 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 7:03 pm to
Mett was at UGA when Kelly was still in Cincinnati. He doesn’t count
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78168 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 7:03 pm to
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Mett was at UGA when Kelly was still in Cincinnati. He doesn’t count


What?

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66095 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 7:07 pm to
How do you count a player during Kelly’s tenure at ND who was playing college ball before Kelly was there?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78168 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 7:09 pm to
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How do you count a player during Kelly’s tenure at ND who was playing college ball before Kelly was there?


Because that doesn’t change anything.

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66095 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 7:09 pm to
Lol k
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78168 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 8:14 pm to
Did he not get drafted from
LSU?
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42329 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:12 pm to
What nonsense.

According to 24/7 Tennessee had 62 upper class scholarship players in 2021 10 of which are transfers so 52 remaining from the previous team. They also had 25 commits. Not sure how that works but I'm guessing someone got processed.

LSU entered 2022 with 55 upper class scholarship players 16 of which were transfers. That equates to 39 scholarship players remaining from the previous team. they also had 14 commits.



Posted by VolNavy98
Tun Tavern
Member since Jul 2022
3853 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:16 pm to
You missed the part UT had 35 transfers before CHH even coached a game. And almost all the starters gone in that 35. Which lead all schools in transfers. Don’t let the facts get in the way. Also LSU is #8 talent wide while UT is #19
Posted by VolNavy98
Tun Tavern
Member since Jul 2022
3853 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:21 pm to
LSU #8 talent in country
UT #19 talent in country

2022 Team Talent. (Spoiler, LSU has more Talent than UT)
Posted by burreauxsballz
Member since Jan 2022
1858 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:24 pm to
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Will Kelly adapt? We will see!


What is the point of hiring somebody if they need to adapt after year 1? Can someone seriously answer this. Why wouldn’t we just hire someone with an updated offensive philosophy?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66095 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:41 pm to
At the same time Mett was playing Kelly’s QB at Cincinnati was an NFL draft pick but we don’t count Pike because he didn’t play for ND. I get that you don’t understand because you couldn’t care less about the truth or objectivity so no need to strain yourself. It’s loud and clear you’re nothing but a waste of time.
This post was edited on 10/10/22 at 10:43 pm
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