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re: If LSU beats Notre Dame, O will be 32-32 as a head coach
Posted on 12/6/17 at 2:48 pm to Topwater Trout
Posted on 12/6/17 at 2:48 pm to Topwater Trout
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No but I didn't scream chicken little and act like the sky was falling...i knew we had a new offesnive system and were playing a lot of freshmen. Face it regardless of the start this team played great the last 7 games of the season...i don't care who the teams were they came to play in every game. When was the last time we were that physical with bama?
for the last 5 years youve screamed about 3 loss seasons being shite. youve repeatedly said the only thing holding lsu back from winning titles was miles.
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I am encouraged by watching my team improve throughout the course of the year especially considering a new offense was put in place and we were playing true freshmen on the line...as opposed to losing 3 games in a row in november
yeah who wants to reach # 1 in be polls when you can just end all hope by week 5.
youre being a huge hypocrite. just go ahead and admit youre ok with losing 3 games as long as miles isnt the coacb.
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 2:51 pm
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Posted on 12/6/17 at 2:52 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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You are perfectly fine with this season
i have never said that. Losing to state and Troy sucked.
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you shite all over 2015
Losing 3 games in november sucks
Posted on 12/6/17 at 2:54 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Oh that's right... the 1st 4 games last year don't count as all hope was lost because Miles was the coach but this year since O is the coach all hope was lost after game 5.....
Nice try to spin the FACT you will do anything to run O into the ground any chance you get.....
Nice try to spin the FACT you will do anything to run O into the ground any chance you get.....
Posted on 12/6/17 at 2:59 pm to dukke v
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Oh that's right... the 1st 4 games last year don't count as all hope was lost because Miles was the coach but this year since O is the coach all hope was lost after game 5.....
Miles was fired because of how the first 4 games went, and looking back, (understand that Miles should have been gone before last season) a 2-2 start with losses to the #8 and #14 teams is not all THAT bad. Especially compared to a 3-2 start with losses to the #23 team and an unranked team.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 3:03 pm to Freauxzen
Still two losses are two losses and there was basically zero hope we could win anything.....
Posted on 12/6/17 at 3:05 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
thanks for the record keeping nerd
Posted on 12/6/17 at 3:05 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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youve repeatedly said the only thing holding lsu back from winning titles was miles.
and I still stand by that
Posted on 12/6/17 at 3:11 pm to Topwater Trout
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and I still stand by that
well who wouldve thought that having 2 elite coordinators would get us the same result that you blasted.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 3:12 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
The only head coaching record that matters is what he does at LSU . He will be judged on that .
I don’t think he will get fired for having a losing record at olepiss ......
I don’t think he will get fired for having a losing record at olepiss ......
Posted on 12/6/17 at 3:13 pm to dukke v
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Oh that's right... the 1st 4 games last year don't count as all hope was lost because Miles was the coach but this year since O is the coach all hope was lost after game 5.....
AND HE WAS FIRED FOR IT.
yet 2 far worse losses in the first 5 games and you label it as a "pretty good record "
way to show your bias
Posted on 12/6/17 at 3:14 pm to Rickdaddy4188
So we should have fired O after the Troy game?????
Posted on 12/6/17 at 3:15 pm to dukke v
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Nice try to spin the FACT you will do anything to run O into the ground any chance you get.....
saying we had 2 bad losses in tge 1st 5 weeks IS NOT RUNNING O INTO THE GROUND. its a fact. you calling it bashing just proves your bias.
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 12/6/17 at 3:17 pm to Rickdaddy4188
What about the rest of your posts????? Nothing positive st all....
Posted on 12/6/17 at 3:18 pm to dukke v
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So we should have fired O after the Troy game???
ill try to explain as best as i can.
in 2013 we lost 3 games and you deemed it unacceptable. yet this year we had 3 worse losses and you deem it a " pretty good record "
i dont see this year as a reason to fire O or as a huge failure just like i didn't see 2013 as some unacceptable season.
im not the one changing my levels of acceptance
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 12/6/17 at 3:25 pm to dukke v
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Still two losses are two losses and there was basically zero hope we could win anything
Actually that’s not true. If we had won out we would have won the SEC W (given Auburn did lose 2 SEC games) we did have Bama at home. Win the SECCG and we’re 10-2 with a win over top 5 at worst Alabama and our loses were both on the road to top 15 teams both in the last minute at worst we’d have been in the Sugar Bowl and have an SEC Title
Posted on 12/6/17 at 3:39 pm to dukke v
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So we should have fired O after the Troy game?????
Optically no, but if the season would have finished 7-5 we should have had a real conversation about it.
But that's the issue here, O finished with possibly the worst possible record for this conversation. If he finishes 10-2 this would be a much more tempered conversation because that would include a win over Alabama and Auburn, and maybe an SECW title and Championship game appearance. No one could argue with that record. He finishes 8-4/7-5 then I think most would accept that O was just more of the same kind of Miles tenure, with a lower ceiling.
He finished the season exactly like Miles, so although people shouldn't necessarily damn him, he shouldn't be celebrated either. He proved little in being able to actually elevate this team to elite (He beat most of the teams he should and one team he shouldn't), nor did he show long term dysfunction that would sink LSU quickly. He was a middling/average success, the worst kind that you can't move on from. Late career Les Miles to a T.
I just want one O supporter to answer the following questions:
1. Is Coach O an elite coach?
2. Is Coach O a Top 25 Coach in the country?
3. Do you trust O to win 2 games in a playoff appearance against 2 of the following - Saban, Dabo, Urban, Chryst, Riley, Richt, Malzahn, Franklin, Peterson, Sarkisian? ANd I mean trust him implicitly that he can go head to head with these coaches and outscheme, outplan, and beat them.
3 Questions.
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 12/6/17 at 3:48 pm to Freauxzen
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He finished the season exactly like Miles, so although people shouldn't necessarily damn him, he shouldn't be celebrated either. He proved little in being able to actually elevate this team to elite (He beat most of the teams he should and one team he shouldn't), nor did he show long term dysfunction that would sink LSU quickly. He was a middling/average success, the worst kind that you can't move on from. Late career Les Miles to a T.
spot on. the same people that bkasted miles for seasons JUST LIKE THIS ONE are labeling this season as pretty good or that it shows potential.
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I just want one O supporter to answer the following questions:
1. Is Coach O an elite coach?
2. Is Coach O a Top 25 Coach in the country?
3. Do you trust O to win 2 games in a playoff appearance against 2 of the following - Saban, Dabo, Urban, Chryst, Riley, Richt, Malzahn, Franklin, Peterson, Sarkisian? ANd I mean trust him implicitly that he can go head to head with these coaches and outscheme, outplan, and beat them.
I asked if they thought O would be even a top 5 candidate at Bama,Ohio state, oklahoma,or Michigan.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 4:07 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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spot on. the same people that bkasted miles for seasons JUST LIKE THIS ONE are labeling this season as pretty good or that it shows potential.
Not only that if he finished the season 10-2 with an appearance in the SEC Championship, he wouldn't even have to win, then that gives merit to the "The only problem is Les Miles and his attitude. We have the talent and resources right now to win." That would be definitive evidence of everything that was said, and of the SELL for O as well, that he can take what Miles built and make it better. He had to have that kind of season for all of that to make sense.
But he didn't. And that's where we are. That narrative is not true, and/or is Coach O the answer to that specific narrative.
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 12/6/17 at 4:34 pm to lsu2006
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9-3 with the schedule we faced this year is neither cause for celebration nor for a lynch mob. Whether or not O is the guy to lead us to the top is still very much TBD. I can't really say I have the utmost confidence, but he's here now and will get his shot. Next year will be very, very telling.
Agree with this. So now, what should a fan do? This season gives fodder to be pessimistic (He lost to TROY!!!!!) or optimistic (he brought the team back from the abyss and made LSU football fun again). So if you want to be a Debbie downer while O proves himself, you can be. And if you want to be a Cheeri-O and pump him up while seeing if he lives up to our hopes. So which is better for LSU?
My view is to be optimistic and give him as much support as possible.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 6:29 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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I asked if they thought O would be even a top 5 candidate at Bama,Ohio state, oklahoma,or Michigan.
He probably wouldn't but who cares... He is THE coach of the team you claim to cheer for... And yet all you do is try to destroy what he has done this year...
So are you A fane of the team or not???
Careful how you answer.............
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