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re: If Les gives a New OC COMPLETE control and Keeps Chavis: What's His Job?

Posted on 1/2/13 at 2:50 pm to
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 2:50 pm to
Coaches should coach and head coaches should manage and make decisions. These days, the game is too complex for a head coach to have enough time to devote to gameplanning and playcalling, while still doing all the extra crap that being a head coach requires.

For whatever reason, however, Miles believes that game planning/play selection is his responsibility. Maybe it's a Schembechler thing.

Anyone know how many playcalling head coaches (Spurrier, Leach, etc.) are out there right now in comparison to the game manager type head coach?

Posted by TigerDice
Canton, OH
Member since Nov 2012
258 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 2:51 pm to
Brush up on Finger Math. He would have to use more than one hand to count first downs on his fingers more often.

It would free him up to keep track of the time clock and how many timeouts we have left.

This post was edited on 1/2/13 at 2:52 pm
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25176 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 2:52 pm to
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Coaches should coach and head coaches should manage and make decisions. These days, the game is too complex for a head coach to have enough time to devote to gameplanning and playcalling, while still doing all the extra crap that being a head coach requires.


I don't think we need to speak in absolutes. I think Sean Payton does a good job in doing both. I think it can be done. I actually like a CEO formula though. Especially in a situation where the Head guy struggles with that a bit. Les freeing himself up to identify a timeout situation at the end of the game without letting 28 seconds elapse is a good thing in my opinion.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66750 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 2:53 pm to
Game planning. Overall offensive philosophy. But let someone come in and call the plays and set up the offense that les wants.

Les can make the call to go for it in 4th but let the OC call what the play is.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 2:55 pm to
It wouldn't matter if we got a new OC and Les didn't tinker with anything. If we lost the idiots would say the same thing, it's all Les Miles' fault.

The truth is no one here knows to what extent he involves himself in the offense/defense, and what calls he's responsible for making and which ones he's not.
Posted by lsu mike
Gonzales
Member since Sep 2006
8580 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 3:00 pm to
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regardless of whether or not LSU gets a new OC, and how well the team plays APOLOGISTS will still find a reason to make excuses for their fearless leader


Sounds better 10-3
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57428 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 3:00 pm to
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The truth is no one here knows to what extent he involves himself in the offense


Let's see, different OCs....

same results....

What could be the common denominator?
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
107870 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 3:01 pm to
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The truth is no one here knows to what extent he involves himself in the offense/defense, and what calls he's responsible for making and which ones he's not.


I concur...And if he's highly involved in the offense, than he needs to not be..If he's not that involved in the offense than he needs a new OC...Either way something has got to change.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 3:05 pm to
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Let's see, different OCs....

same results....

What could be the common denominator?


you're dumb
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57428 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 3:08 pm to
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you're dumb
Posted by TDTGodfather
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
6169 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 3:11 pm to
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Particularly on game-day? Does he just sit there and count timeouts in his head while eating grass and digging in his ears and nose?

He has already handed over the keys of the defense to Chavis, so maybe he wants to keep control of the offense to justify his being on the sidelines?

I'm trying to figure out his rationality for always tinkering with one side of the football.

do you think Les would be the only coach in history that lets his coordinators do the heavy lifting?


Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 3:12 pm to
what a stupid gif. the guy obviously reaches in with his right hand but then slaps "himself" with his left. you're so dumb.
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
7880 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 3:21 pm to
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I think Sean Payton does a good job in doing both. I think it can be done.


Huge difference in NFL vs College in this regard. Plenty of NFL head coaches are playcallers. In college, most are giving it up to the OC.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9936 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 3:24 pm to
He recruits, he motivates, he oversees, he makes the final hiring and firing decisions, he disciplines players, he deals with the Athletic Department and Administration, he tours and fund raises for the TAF and he coordinates the coordinators. He makes the final decisions. He is the head ball coach.
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27723 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 3:34 pm to
He can still override calls, but let the OC call the game for the most part. He isn't going to bring in someone that doesn't share his philosophy, so it will be someone that runs his style. All he should do game day is worry about what calls are going in and to decide whether to override it or not. Should only be where the game is on the line in my opinion.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 3:36 pm to
Same as what a normal HC is.

There's a reason why nearly every school has an OC and a DC.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51694 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 3:37 pm to
recruit and decide to go for it on 4th down or not.
Posted by GaytorHater703
Member since Nov 2004
2673 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 3:38 pm to
Les needs to just be the new Bobby Bowden. Recruit and motivate.
Posted by JJT
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2009
347 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 4:03 pm to
Recruiting
Handling the press
Let him coach special teams
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29153 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 4:05 pm to
this is what most people want from les.

my question is what is les good at?

nick saban and muschamp know defense.

chip kelly knows offense.

what does les know?

booger eating? goofy clapping?
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