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re: If it comes down to Napier or Aranda
Posted on 10/12/21 at 8:43 am to dallastiger55
Posted on 10/12/21 at 8:43 am to dallastiger55
That’s like having to chose whether to have them amputate your leg either just above or just below the knee…
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
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Posted on 10/12/21 at 8:44 am to SlowFlowPro
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Not familiar with our recruiting region and likely $10M/year
I think you have that same concern with Fickell (albeit for a little less but probably 6.5-7+) and the fear that he bolts for tOSU if/when Day kicks the tires on an NFL job.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 8:46 am to Elleshoe
Already said that about Fickell. I don't think he's a real option. I think he's all PSU once Franklin bolts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 8:47 am to Elleshoe
I get the recruiting thing, but staffing for that has become much more specialized than it used to be.
So say you keep Austin Thomas & Mason Smith on staff for whatever new coach you bring in. They have a big board ready to go, and contacts for every HS & 7on7 coach in the region.
Get the new coach up to speed & hit the ground running.
So say you keep Austin Thomas & Mason Smith on staff for whatever new coach you bring in. They have a big board ready to go, and contacts for every HS & 7on7 coach in the region.
Get the new coach up to speed & hit the ground running.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 8:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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I think he's all PSU once Franklin bolts
Tough to see Franklin leaving there any time soon unless he has NFL aspirations.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 8:47 am to dallastiger55
Napier.
I remember when fans wanted Aranda’s head mid-season more than once. This board is hilarious.
I remember when fans wanted Aranda’s head mid-season more than once. This board is hilarious.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 8:48 am to Lester Earl
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I get the recruiting thing, but staffing for that has become much more specialized than it used to be.
probably right, especially if the new coach retains either/both of Raymond and Joseph.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 8:49 am to Lester Earl
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I get the recruiting thing, but staffing for that has become much more specialized than it used to be.
So say you keep Austin Thomas & Mason Smith on staff for whatever new coach you bring in. They have a big board ready to go, and contacts for every HS & 7on7 coach in the region.
Get the new coach up to speed & hit the ground running.
I think this is more of an argument for an Aranda than a Fickell. I'll clarify. I don't think Fickell will want to leave the region, like Campbell. He can wait out PSU (or possibly OSU depending on his patience) or ND.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 8:49 am to RightHook
Napier...got to go offense..hell Aranda's defense in 2019 wasn't that good...we had to outscore everybody cuz our defense gave up 400 yds a game and allowed 28pts a game. We had to boat race every team and lucky our captain was Burrow. DBU? Its a joke....LBU? Another joke.
Got to have a coach to recruit some football players regardless of how many stars they have..
Got to have a coach to recruit some football players regardless of how many stars they have..
Posted on 10/12/21 at 8:49 am to Elleshoe
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Tough to see Franklin leaving there any time soon unless he has NFL aspirations.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 8:50 am to SlowFlowPro
Would he leave Penn State for USC? He's a Pennsylvania guy. 
Posted on 10/12/21 at 8:50 am to deaux
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If Napier was at a G5 school outside of Louisiana, how often would his name come up on this board?
I get that but it was only a few short years ago that Aranda was a DC for LSU. He has been a HC at Baylor for what 2 years and has done OK.
Napier has been head coach at ULL for a little longer but he gets any recruit out of Louisiana that he wants that isn't recruited by the SEC. He's beat out several Big 12 teams on 3 star recruits. He's competing to get any 3 star he wants in the country. Typically he's getting the right ones that produce for his program in a big way.
One day Napier will be a thorn in LSU's side one way or the other. I get the thought process of not wanting to hire him due to experience. However, this is probably LSU's last chance to hire the guy so they probably at least need to take a long look, because if you don't he will probably beat you down the road at some point.
I mean what would you say today if LSU was looking at a relatively unknown coach with a record of 34 - 24 - 1 from Michigan St whose biggest achievement was basically one signature win over Ohio St.
This post was edited on 10/12/21 at 8:52 am
Posted on 10/12/21 at 8:52 am to Elleshoe
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Would he leave Penn State for USC? He's a Pennsylvania guy.
Lots of smoke that USC acted early (and, more importantly, got the money in line) with Helton b/c they had their guy lined up and it's Franklin.
USC didn't just fire Helton without a plan. He was owed too much and they're too poor right now.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 8:53 am to dallastiger55
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Last year was a mess at Baylor and they will most likely finish with five or six losses this year.
I dont Think that’s necessarily true.
They e been playing wells
Posted on 10/12/21 at 8:54 am to dallastiger55
Both Moscona and Culotta said that Woodward is going for a home run hire. I don't understand this board's obsession with Napier. He may be a good coach at ULL, but he will be under enormous pressure to win right away here, and LSU can't afford to mess this hire up.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 8:55 am to SlowFlowPro
That's interesting. I have no idea what Woodward is going to do. I do think it'll be more of a cerebral guy than a "rah rah" guy like Les and Orgeron. Aranda fits the mold of what I'm thinking perfectly... just the "lack of HC experience" concern..
Posted on 10/12/21 at 8:56 am to SlowFlowPro
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Utah in 2004 is on the level of ULL in 2021
The difference is Napier isn't one of the 5-7 best coaches in CFB history
Actually, Utah in 2004 = 2021 Cincinnati.
That's why everybody is on Fickell. He could literally be the next Urban Meyer.
No one thought Urban was one of the 5-7 best coaches in CFB history when he started at Utah.
2004 Utah: undefeated season, finished in the top 5, heisman candidate qb
2021 Cincinnati: 5-0 (w/ no expected losses on schedule), ranked #3, QB is still top 5 heisman favorite
Posted on 10/12/21 at 8:57 am to Elleshoe
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That's interesting.
I'm not against Franklin or Fickell, I just don't think they're real options. Same with Campbell.
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I do think it'll be more of a cerebral guy than a "rah rah" guy like Les and Orgeron.
It's what I've wanted since Saban left.
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Aranda fits the mold of what I'm thinking perfectly... just the "lack of HC experience" concern..
Agreed. I don't think we have the list posters think we do.
Aranda/Herman is a dream duo. Out-smarting the world
Posted on 10/12/21 at 8:58 am to SlowFlowPro
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What I want are forward-thinking guys.
I would say this is also a notch in Lane's belt.
He came up in the USC pro style working under Chow but completely retooled his offense to what's in now.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 8:59 am to lsufb1912
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Actually, Utah in 2004 = 2021 Cincinnati.
They're a lot better in terms of history. That's b/c they had one of the 5-7 best coaches in CFB history running a revolutionary offensive scheme.
Cinci is on ULLs level in terms of program. Fickell is a better coach than Napier.
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He could literally be the next Urban Meyer.
His teams would be a lot better if this was true.
Meyer also built up Bowling Green and Fickell doesn't have that "other" stop/history. Nor does Fickell do anything revolutionary like Urban was doing.
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