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re: If Derek Dooley were to resurrect the UT program in 5 years
Posted on 12/8/10 at 4:17 pm to Bayoutiger82
Posted on 12/8/10 at 4:17 pm to Bayoutiger82
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I feel his coaching is bringing our talent level down.
We had a punishing defense this year.
We had a sterling ST unit.
We had an All-SEC running back.
We had an offensive line that cut it sack numbers in half from last year.
We had a QB who threw 4 TDs and 9 INTs.
So tell me, where is the talent level "down?"
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Posted on 12/8/10 at 4:41 pm to chilge1
Squeeking by teams like NC, Florida (overrated this year), WV, TN, Ole Miss is some cause for concern to me. With our talent we should be dominating these teams and not just getting by. We are improved and I hope it continues next year, but in reality we should have had the same record as last year and with more talent.
Posted on 12/8/10 at 4:44 pm to Bayoutiger82
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With our talent we should be dominating these teams and not just getting by. We are improved and I hope it continues next year, but in reality we should have had the same record as last year and with more talent.
Please quantify this measurement of talent so that I might see that our team was vastly superior to another.
Posted on 12/8/10 at 4:46 pm to chilge1
Here is a thought. Why play a qb who performs like that. Why don't you paly Lee or better yet develop the both of them . There is no excsue for both to be 4 star athletes and to perform like they have. That fall directy on Miles shoulders! Let me guess Mettinberger is or savior. Not with miles running this
Posted on 12/8/10 at 4:49 pm to chilge1
If you think that tn wv nc or ole miss has the talent we do then you havn't kept up with college football. Hell none of those schools have been close to us on the recruiting trail the lst several years. They simply get more out of their players with less talent. In other words they develop what they have.
Posted on 12/8/10 at 4:51 pm to Bayoutiger82
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Why play a qb who performs like that.
Because he knows that the quarterback has shown in the past that he has the capacity to perform well. You think the Saints should have started Chase Daniel after the first five or six games that Drew Brees struggled?
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Why don't you paly Lee
He played the better quarterback. It's that simple.
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better yet develop the both of them
I'm sure the thought never occurred to him...
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There is no excsue for both to be 4 star athletes and to perform like they have.
Sure there is. They have a shite mentor in their OC. For a long time I was putting the blame on the QBs, but I recently stumbled across Crowton's track record dating back to Tech, Oregon, BYU, and even Chicago. The dude has a history of fricking up offenses.
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Let me guess Mettinberger is or savior
Who?
Posted on 12/8/10 at 4:55 pm to chilge1
Who's fault is it to have a shite for OC
He hasn't played the better QB. and don't base this on the int's when lee was a freshman. He has never been given a chance this year. No he isn't the better runner for sure, but pocket passer most definatel. He also been clutch in three big games this year off the bench as well. Oh yeah you r paid 3.8 mill a year and you can't develop a qb. Meyer, Saban, Peterson, Patterson, etc don't seem to have this problem
He hasn't played the better QB. and don't base this on the int's when lee was a freshman. He has never been given a chance this year. No he isn't the better runner for sure, but pocket passer most definatel. He also been clutch in three big games this year off the bench as well. Oh yeah you r paid 3.8 mill a year and you can't develop a qb. Meyer, Saban, Peterson, Patterson, etc don't seem to have this problem
Posted on 12/8/10 at 4:57 pm to chilge1
You are questioning me and u dont know who mettinburger is lmfao 
Posted on 12/8/10 at 5:02 pm to Bayoutiger82
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Who's fault is it to have a shite for OC
Crowton was a convenient hire given his locale in Ruston. He then broke every LSU offensive record in his first year. That kind of success tends to buy you a few years.
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He hasn't played the better QB. He has never been given a chance this year. No he isn't the better runner for sure, but pocket passer most definatel. He also been clutch in three big games this year off the bench as well.
So you're basing your analysis of Lee on split-time in three games? I don't give a shite about Lee's INTs. As a red frosh it'll happen. Maybe he wasn't given a true chance because he WASN'T THE BETTER QUARTERBACK. No, he's not the better runner. And that's really what hurts him. When Jefferson has pressure in his face, he escapes the pressure, and he can either find an open man or pick up 4-5 yards on the ground. When Lee has pressure in his face, he just slings the ball off his back foot.
So sure... base your feelings on one drive against Tennessee, and a few drives against Florida, and whatever other game you want. I'll base mine off of their playing styles.
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Oh yeah you r paid 3.8 mill a year and you can't develop a qb. Meyer, Saban, Peterson, Patterson, etc don't seem to have this problem
Meyer had a worse offense than LSU did even last year with a ***** QB prospect who has hailed as being better than Tebow.
Saban has NEVER developed a QB in his tenure.
And
for even including Boise State and TCU in this discussion.Posted on 12/8/10 at 5:05 pm to Bayoutiger82
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Mettinberger
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mettinburger
Sounds to me more like you don't know who he is.
Posted on 12/8/10 at 5:13 pm to TheCaterpillar
Y'all are so ridiculous about getting rid of Les. Since 2008 he has continued to improve, he recruits well and runs a clean program. He has his problems as all coaches do, I enjoy that he is willing to take risks. LSU will win a national title in the next 3-5 years and it will all be thanks to Les.
I honestly still don't get it. LSU ran through one of the greatest divisions in SEC history 10-2 without a QB. We lost by a touchdown in both games on the road. Everybody needs to calm down, when Les starts winning sub-8 games you can call for his head.
I honestly still don't get it. LSU ran through one of the greatest divisions in SEC history 10-2 without a QB. We lost by a touchdown in both games on the road. Everybody needs to calm down, when Les starts winning sub-8 games you can call for his head.
This post was edited on 12/8/10 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 12/8/10 at 5:18 pm to TheCaterpillar
No. Tennessee hired him because they thought he was Saban Jr. I don't see him panning out.
Posted on 12/8/10 at 5:27 pm to TheCaterpillar
As long as CLM keeps winning, then no I don't want Dooley. But Dooley is a good coach; if he can get his hands on some solid recruits he'll have a one mean team. Then the SEC will only get tougher. 
Posted on 12/8/10 at 5:30 pm to Bayoutiger82
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Squeeking by teams like NC, Florida (overrated this year), WV, TN, Ole Miss is some cause for concern to me. With our talent we should be dominating these teams and not just getting by. We are improved and I hope it continues next year, but in reality we should have had the same record as last year and with more talent.
The more things change, the more they stay the same. You are right in saying that maybe we should have dominated more. But to say ALL of those teams is a bit far. No one consistently blows out SEC teams, not even Saban. The only teams where I would have said we should have dominated would have been McNeese, WV, and UNC. The other games are toss ups.
Posted on 12/8/10 at 5:40 pm to volfan30
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The talent level is not as far down as people think.
That has to be among the dumbest opinions I've seen on the Rant. How many true freshmen started at Tennessee this season? Yet two years in a row his teams outplayed LSU in Tiger Stadium. Experienced Talent was the difference in both games.
They have a true freshman quarterback who started the last five games, all wins. Bray may be the best quarterback in the SEC next season.
Posted on 12/8/10 at 5:42 pm to TheCaterpillar
dooley is not in Georgia or LOuisiana.
He has stated and its true, that he must recruit southern Ohio.
His circle of interest is a circle that includes Atlanta, Cincinnati and Louisville.
Poor thing, Tennessee does not have nearly the 4 star players that the gulf states do, per capita.
They must compete against State U, and a slew of traditional mid sized programs in southern Ohio, including now-Big East Cincinnati, which has that Queen city thing going.
So its not a sure thing Dooley makes it.
He is similar to Michigan. He must recruit nationally, to put the same quality on the field that Florida, Florida State, LSU, TEx, The Ohio State, Bama do.
I do not trust Dooley yet. I have a feeling I wont.
he certainly has the background.
I am guessing he would jump to Georgia if it opened.
Would you offer LSU, knowing that he would go back to Georgia if he could.
He has stated and its true, that he must recruit southern Ohio.
His circle of interest is a circle that includes Atlanta, Cincinnati and Louisville.
Poor thing, Tennessee does not have nearly the 4 star players that the gulf states do, per capita.
They must compete against State U, and a slew of traditional mid sized programs in southern Ohio, including now-Big East Cincinnati, which has that Queen city thing going.
So its not a sure thing Dooley makes it.
He is similar to Michigan. He must recruit nationally, to put the same quality on the field that Florida, Florida State, LSU, TEx, The Ohio State, Bama do.
I do not trust Dooley yet. I have a feeling I wont.
he certainly has the background.
I am guessing he would jump to Georgia if it opened.
Would you offer LSU, knowing that he would go back to Georgia if he could.
Posted on 12/8/10 at 5:42 pm to volfan30
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We are the second best program in the SEC All-Time, have great young talent, great facilities, and the largest recruiting budget in the nation.
Dude come on! I lived in Nashville for a few years(left in April 2009) and had to hear this crap! GREAT young talent...ya'll HAD GREAT talent in the 1990s...check the recruiting rankings the few years. Most of the SEC schools have great facilities and LSU has better facilities than UTs PERIOD(we arent talking roundball).
Why does the University of Tennessee have the largest recruiting budget in the country? Because the state of Tennessee is a joke when it comes to high school football(I watched your "best" teams) and the talent they produce!
Tennessee is no different than Notre Dame, Nebraska, and other teams of the past that HAS to recruit nationally like Tennessee.
Tennessee football is a 8-9 win program at best in this century(What's past is prologue) Sorry to hurt your feelings, the facts speak for themselves. I WOULD NOT BRAG about how massive UT's recruiting budget is! It makes you sound like the short dorky guy that HAS to drive the big 4x4 lifted truck to get attention.
Posted on 12/8/10 at 5:46 pm to OU812
If their budget is so big why don't they recruit as well as others?
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It's because Tennessee has little in-state talent and it's hard to convince kids to move to bumfrick Tennessee for 4 years.
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It's because Tennessee has little in-state talent and it's hard to convince kids to move to bumfrick Tennessee for 4 years.
Posted on 12/8/10 at 5:47 pm to Bayoutiger82
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I would rather have him now than Miles. The future is bright for Dooley, Miles not so much
What an idiot of a rantard. Please don't post anymore, you are flat out embarrassing.
ETA: No. Derek is nothing but a spoiled brat. We don't want or need him around real young men. Thanks, but no thanks; Stay at UT.
This post was edited on 12/8/10 at 5:50 pm
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