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re: If Aranda substitutes, TCU loses and LSU goes to 4.Posted by TigerWoodlands on 11/23/22 at 9:55 am to LSBoosie
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If Illinois doesn't go conservative on their last drive, they win and Michigan is out.
Same can be said for Baylor and Aranda. Their final drive was atrocious conservatism.
re: If Aranda substitutes, TCU loses and LSU goes to 4.Posted by Domeskeller on 11/23/22 at 10:04 am to Timeoday
Aranda is overrated. Always has been.
re: If Aranda substitutes, TCU loses and LSU goes to 4.Posted by WildTchoupitoulas on 11/23/22 at 10:09 am to Jamey21
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ON the 4th down and 2 yards in his previous possession with only 1:45 seconds left in the game he should have went for it.
From his own 26 yard line? If it fails, TCU is already in FG range. I don't think any coach goes for it in that situation. Baylor got a 45 yard punt to put TCU back at their own 30.
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should have went
Seriously?
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They practice it in a rush. Teams FREEZE kickers all the time. Did Dykes have them practice a "rush to be frozen play"? FREEZING creates pressure, especially when you are not at home!!
Answer the question. Which is more likely to result in a missed field goal?
Rushing a field goal unit on the field to barely get the snap / kick off in time, or kicking after a timeout?
Freezing a kicker really only has one risk for the kicking team, and that is getting in the kickers head.
Rushing the field goal unit to get the kick off before the clock goes out? Several things could go wrong. False start (10 second runoff - game over), Bad snap due to having to rush, kicker may be out of sorts as he didn't have time to line up as usual, and several other issues that come along with having to rush onto the field.
This post was edited on 11/23 at 11:56 am
re: If Aranda substitutes, TCU loses and LSU goes to 4.Posted by chaso on 11/23/22 at 12:13 pm to Who_Dat_Tiger
Geaux beat Ga. what about a&m ? Getting to far ahead
re: If Aranda substitutes, TCU loses and LSU goes to 4.Posted by notbilly on 11/23/22 at 12:36 pm to Lsutigerturner
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tcu changed players for kicking unit, I thought the other team was allowed to sub in additional players also and ump would not stop time.. I swear if seen it done
The substitution rule doesn't apply at end of game FG situations
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re: If Aranda substitutes, TCU loses and LSU goes to 4.Posted by choupiquesushi on 11/23/22 at 1:21 pm to Timeoday
quote:might wanna read the rule on that.....
However, if Aranda had slow walked a sub or two
re: If Aranda substitutes, TCU loses and LSU goes to 4.Posted by Bjorn Cyborg on 11/23/22 at 1:33 pm to Timeoday
This keeps being repeated but it's not true.
re: If Aranda substitutes, TCU loses and LSU goes to 4.Posted by CleanSlate on 11/23/22 at 2:14 pm to Timeoday
For the 100th time! If LSU beats Georgia they make the CFP, if they lose, they get left out. That’s it! Literally everyone else could win or lose and it wouldn’t impact whether or not LSU makes the playoff.
re: If Aranda substitutes, TCU loses and LSU goes to 4.Posted by choupiquesushi on 11/23/22 at 2:28 pm to Scotcho Libre
quote:The center judge is the one who clears the ball, the umpire backs out after he sets ball and R is ready. This is the rule but not the mechanic.
If Aranda substitutes, TCU loses and LSU goes to 4.
If this is official, it should explain the rules.
Approved Ruling 3-5-2 LINK
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VIII. Late in the first half Team A is out of timeouts. A pass play on third down ends inbounds at the B-25 short of the line to gain with the game clock showing 0:10. Facing fourth down and three, Team A immediately hurries its field goal team onto the field. RULING: Team B should reasonably expect that Team A will attempt a field goal in this situation and should have its field-goal defense unit ready. The umpire will not stand over the ball, as there should be no issue of the defense being uncertain about the next play.
IX. Late in the first half Team A is out of timeouts. A pass play on third down ends inbounds at the B-25 short of the line to gain with the game clock showing 0:30. Facing fourth down and three, Team A gives no indication as to its next play until the game clock reads 0:10. They then rush their field goal unit onto the field, and Team B then hurries to respond. RULING: The umpire moves to the ball to prevent the snap until Team B has had a reasonable opportunity to get its field-goal defense unit onto the field. The umpire will step away when he judges that the defense has had enough time. If the game clock reads 0:00 before the ball is snapped after the umpire steps away, the half is over.
re: If Aranda substitutes, TCU loses and LSU goes to 4.Posted by choupiquesushi on 11/23/22 at 2:39 pm to rrboy
quote:must substitute promptly and BU did sub one player. so that kick was going.
I was thinking the same thing also. Since TCU substituted, Baylor should have substituted slow and let the clock run out. Aranda blew it
re: If Aranda substitutes, TCU loses and LSU goes to 4.Posted by NorthTxLSU on 11/23/22 at 2:45 pm to LSBoosie
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If Illinois doesn't go conservative on their last drive, they win and Michigan is out.
if the refs call OPI for a blatant illegal pick play on 4th down**
re: If Aranda substitutes, TCU loses and LSU goes to 4.Posted by Houtexlandscape on 11/23/22 at 2:46 pm to Timeoday
Aranda lost the game running it 3 times up the middle and punting- end of story. game over. Winners don't play not to lose.
re: If Aranda substitutes, TCU loses and LSU goes to 4.Posted by BallChamp00 on 11/23/22 at 2:50 pm to Jamey21
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Let me clear this up for yall. If Aranda would have had some balls, ON the 4th down and 2 yards in his previous possession with only 1:45 seconds left in the game he should have went for it. If they make the 1st down, that's ball game. Baylor easily runs out the clock. Your team is 4-3 in the conference. Now you are 4-4. What did he have to lose. Horrible decision
Yep. A first down is more important than a time out for the opposing team in the college game in that situation. Throwing it on first or second and they probably win. Add to it not going for it on 4th to ice game with their record and I just don’t get it.
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