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re: If Alabama gets a rematch it messes up the argument of the regular season being

Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:53 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:53 am to
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BUT, a whole lot of people were certain that was the case when it was OSU/MICH and then what happened? BOTH of them went and got pasted.

that was mainly the rust belt media pimping their rust belt/traditional teams
Posted by BayouBndt
Shreveport
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Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:53 am to
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really hate this argument. As was asked above, what happens is Georgia beats LSU? Then neither Bama or LSU gets into the BCSCG, and we're left watching the winner of OU/OK St play either Georgia, Oregon, or Virginia Tech. Yea, that would solve everything.


I answered your question if you would have read. A conference Champion should play in the MNC. LSU will take care of business so I don't think we have to worry about this.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:53 am to
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Incorrect. See Big 10, 2006.

there wasn't a legit argument. UF had a much, much better resume than UM. UM was just a more traditional/national power and the midwest/northeast media (who loves them some big10) pimped michigan
Posted by VOR
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Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:54 am to
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SlowFlowPro


I keep asking for a link in which it is stated that the purpose of the BCS is to ensure that the two "best" teams meet in the BCSCG. No, it is not implied.
Posted by TriumphTiger
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:55 am to
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If Alabama gets a rematch it messes up the argument of the regular season being relevant )


Meh - happens in CCG. That's not my reason for not wanting a rematch.

I had a thread on the SEC Rant where I basically said I accept it, which I do, but I still don't like it.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:55 am to
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link?

Here's your link... nowhere does it state that the purpose is to match the two best teams:

LINK
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:56 am to
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No, it is not implied.

but it is implied

1/3 of the formula has no argument. i mean NONE

what do you think the other 2/3 of the formula are doing at the top of their polls?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:57 am to
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Here's your link... nowhere does it state that the purpose is to match the two best teams:

oh so #1 v #2 is just a random grouping. got it
Posted by charlottetiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:57 am to
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this year it will be a conference champ and the second place team from that same conference.


Technically speaking, Bama would be the third place team out of the SEC because UGA would be the SEC runner-up.
Posted by XLIVsaints
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Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:58 am to
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Technically speaking, Bama would be the third place team out of the SEC because UGA would be the SEC runner-up.



exactly
This post was edited on 11/27/11 at 9:59 am
Posted by griswold
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:59 am to
So why didn't Bama get a rematch last year? After all the Barn only beat them by ONE point. And I assure you BAMA was a better team than Oregon.
Posted by BayouBndt
Shreveport
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:01 am to
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So why didn't Bama get a rematch last year? After all the Barn only beat them by ONE point. And I assure you BAMA was a better team than Oregon.


+1

I just don't think the other aspects of the formula will allow an all SEC championship game. Especially with all the anti SEC sentiment in some portions of the country.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:01 am to
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Technically speaking, Bama would be the third place team out of the SEC because UGA would be the SEC runner-up.

naw. pre-title game bama has 1 loss and UGA has 2.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:01 am to
The whole argument about the reg season being relevant has been BS for the entirety of college football history.

As it is now, after the first two weeks of the season, at least 60 of the 120 teams have no shot. By week 7 there are usually only about 10 teams out of 120 that have a chance at the championship. How relevant has any team in the Big 10 been since week 8? Unless relevance means getting excited about finishing 19th. Weeeeee!
Posted by charlottetiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Nov 2007
7965 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:01 am to
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So why didn't Bama get a rematch last year? After all the Barn only beat them by ONE point


Invalid question, Bama had 2 losses.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:02 am to
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oh so #1 v #2 is just a random grouping. got it

No... the purpose of the BCS is to match the two highest ranked teams. It leaves the matter to the voters... they are not obligated to vote for the "best" two teams and they're not violating any stated purpose by selecting a team that they feel merits a shot over another team that has already blown one.
Posted by TriumphTiger
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Sep 2007
10436 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:03 am to
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So you acknowledge Bama is one of the top two teams in the country. Yet you propose to keep them form competing. Your definition of true champion is terrible.


I think Bama is probably the second best. However, how do we know this? It's completely subjective. If these two SEC teams were MSU and Arkansas, how would the national/regional perception be?

Conference championships should mean something.
This post was edited on 11/27/11 at 10:04 am
Posted by GoldRing
Warner Robins, GA.
Member since May 2011
855 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:11 am to
The first victory does not matter to ESPN.
Matching up Alabama vs LSU will be a travesty of justice. So very unfair. Or if you will. Men agreeing without honor tarnishing what they agree to fix. The crown. Playing another rematch between the same teams. Only thing the winner this second time wins the crystal ball.
The first victory did not matter. Lifting that kind of trophy is looking more like an evil representation of the evil men who just do not care about what they pretend to believe in. The trophy then is a tarnished reflection of something honorable. A trophy unearned. A fixed game. You lose, we win. No fairness what so ever.
Earning your way into a High School degree from studying your school work by in reality passing the test. Is what we reward our young children with for earning their way. A tangible piece of work that we proudly show to each other. Money from a honest days work.
Where is the proof of Alabama # 2 ranking?
Posted by Morgus
The Old City Icehouse
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:15 am to
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oh so #1 v #2 is just a random grouping. got it


So the only non-random grouping of teams is one in which they are grouped according to which are the best. got it.
Posted by am4titansandlsu
The South
Member since May 2006
10637 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:19 am to
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Bama and LSU are the two best teams in the country. I can't name any other team that would be competitive in a National Championship Game.


LSU and UGA were the best 2 teams in 2007 and....

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