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re: I wanted boards opinion on execution of an offense

Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:49 am to
Posted by p&g
Dixie
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:49 am to
You and just justice give each other e reach arounds.

It's cute and entertaining.

And btw don't let me get in the way of your estalking but have you ever heard phrase pot meet kettle?

I start a thread with legitmate discission and here you come ....like you do in every other thread with pout and gargle.
Blah blah blah wahhhh wahhh like the bitch you are.

Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:51 am to
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Yep. Good coaches coach guys up. If your team is consistently looking like garbage against the better teams with comparable talent, it's not the players. Because the players come and go and the same side of the ball looks like dung. It's your scheme. O made his hire. The Offense better look worlds better next year against the crappy rent a wins and better look good against Bama/AU/UGA/Miami. Even the MSU front 7 is going to force LSU to throw. And we're gonna see if our staff can prepare a gameplan to rise to the occasion. Next season is all on O. Spin the web however you want.



For the sake of sticking with the point of the thread would you care to help me understand why how the coaches failed Jalen hurts during NC game?
They should have coached their 2 yr starter up better IMO.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:55 am to
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It's LSU and the sec with coaches getting paid more in a year than you'll ever make in your lifetime.
Then what system are these elite coaches running? O has mentioned the spread, power I, and then the they will run everything offense?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79428 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:56 am to
It’s literally the coaches job to prepaid the players to make a play.

If you’re a dickhead who doesn’t know what he’s doing than your team won’t execute.

Simultaneously if the player is a dickhead, the best coach can’t make him execute a play.

It’s still both.
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:59 am to
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For the sake of sticking with the point of the thread would you care to help me understand why how the coaches failed Jalen hurts during NC game? They should have coached their 2 yr starter up better IMO.
so if they leave Jalen in the game and Bama loses the NC, would it have been Saban's fault or Jalen's?

This is a clear example of why it's the coach who is ultimately responsible. Jalen was having a bad game, which you know happens if you've ever played any type of sport, so his coach put someone else in that would give them a better chance of winning.
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7468 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:02 pm to
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Why do players get benched?



Who recruited the players? Who designed the offense or defense? Who dictates the practice schedule? Who decides the depth chart? Who implements the practice grading scheme to set the depth chart? Who decides- based on practices, scrimmages & past performances - which players can handle the pressure of the bright lights? Who decides,based on scheme, which players are "getting it"?
Yep, all on the players.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38661 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:03 pm to
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Coaches or players ?

Who's burden fall on more?
I'm saying the playeRs are ultimately responsible.


Woof. That's a mighty big cushion for O's responsibility. I commend the attempt at building the excuse fortress this early.
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
3097 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:03 pm to
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It's LSU and the sec with coaches getting paid more in a year than you'll ever make in your lifetime.
which is why most people question why O got the job in the first place. one of the highest paying coaching positions in the land and a person that has never been a successful head coach at any power five school, other than an interim basis, gets the job..
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:11 pm to
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I'm going to guess your opinion on the matter is whatever allows O to take zero blame whatsoever for any failures last season and going forward.


!00% correct answer right there.
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:13 pm to
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SammyTiger



Listen to the last 60 secs of Anthony McFarlands podcast this am.

Come back and apologize for being stupid and never reply t a post I make again.
This goes for about 5-6 others in this thread as well.

Booger speaking the truth about execution

This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 12:15 pm
Posted by bluebengal
Lafayette La
Member since Feb 2018
773 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:14 pm to
My inside source tells me none of our QB's are ready for the season and that no body has taken control to be the number one guy! I think there was some talk of a JC QB guy coming in the fall and that is an accurate statement. We got a ways to go but things not looking great. Myles has the most accurate arm but he has a habit of staring down the primary receiver. The coaches have engaged the issue but it takes time.
Posted by bluebengal
Lafayette La
Member since Feb 2018
773 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:16 pm to
Great point!
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:16 pm to
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Woof. That's a mighty big cushion for O's responsibility. I commend the attempt at building the excuse fortress this early.


It shouldn't even matter because we were told that Orgeron would recruit at an elite level.
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:17 pm to
Don't take it from me, I'm a biased O gargler.


Listen to Anthony McFarland.
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:20 pm to
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Who recruited the players? Who designed the offense or defense? Who dictates the practice schedule? Who decides the depth chart? Who implements the practice grading scheme to set the depth chart? Who decides- based on practices, scrimmages & past performances - which players can handle the pressure of the bright lights? Who decides,based on scheme, which players are "getting it"?
Yep, all on the players.



Jalen hurts says what up Jon boy!
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79428 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:21 pm to
So Les Miles offense was good the OL just needed to block better Vs Bama.

Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40140 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:23 pm to
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Jalen hurts says what up Jon boy!

I’m not sure you even know what you’re arguing at this point. You are possibly the saddest of all O sycophants.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79428 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:25 pm to
You start a discussion than ignore the points anyone else makes.

If our WR drop 6 passes a game all season, do you think we keep sullivan and Mickey around?

You can’t make a player do anything on he field. Which is why Les couldn’t make Brandon Harris complete a basic pass. But at the same time a coach has to coach. You have to teach people how to execute and what to execute. If the coaching is a mess you can’t execute.

I agree Ultimately it is up to the player, but it’s asinine to say Coahces have no responsibility in their players execution.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 12:30 pm
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:28 pm to
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I'm going to guess your opinion on the matter is whatever allows O to take zero blame whatsoever for any failures last season and going forward.


I'm going to guess that no matter what happens up to and including a thermonuclear attack will be O's fault in your opinion.
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:30 pm to
Dude There is no other point.
LSU isn't dropping 6 passes a game or fumbling the football or leading sec in penalties. If so then certainly that falls on coaching.
I'm not ignoring any point ...as I said there isn't one other than execution of plays is up to the players.


It's like making a putt to win the masters or hell a random skins game.
You either drain it or you don't.

quote:

agree Ultimately it is up to the player, but it’s asinine to say Coahces have no responsibility in their players execution


Thank you.
At ftr I never said coaches have NO responsibility in this.
You just made that up.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 12:32 pm
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