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Sissidog02
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re: I want Jeff Grimes as next LSU OC
Contrary to popular belief or unpopular belief, I stated this last year several times, but was told to sit in corner because of my analysis of the SEC Inside: Championship Season. Please someone bring my topic up on this, I’m still in the corner, but I really don’t know how. Captain Crown can you help me out!


SidewalkTiger
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re: I want Jeff Grimes as next LSU OC
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Correct. They didn't award Joe Brady the Frank Broyles Award just for being a passing coordinator. The committee understood.





They also gave Matt Canada the same award the year before he came to LSU.


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SidewalkTiger
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re: I want Jeff Grimes as next LSU OC
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Do we miss Brady? Absolutely. You can see how he knew how to attack mismatches and constantly put pressure on the defense with balance. His game planning and in-game adjustments aren’t there this year. As good as the offense has been, and it’s been better than any LSU passing offense for at least 13 years other than 2019, we can still see the differences


Is the differences we're seeing the lack of Brady or the lack of Burrow, CEH, 2019 offensive line, Chase, and Jefferson?


geauxjo
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There is nothing wrong with the offense,


0-10 on 3rd downs.
Zero run game.
Putting points up on State, Vandy and Missouri and you think the offense is fine? I think Brennan is getting comfortable and we have some playmakers around him- but the offensive concept and certain aspects of the play calling are not fine.


SidewalkTiger
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Putting points up on State, Vandy and Missouri and you think the offense is fine? 


Those teams were #2, 4, and #10 in SEC pass defense leading up to today.

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but the offensive concept and certain aspects of the play calling are not fine.


Is it really play calling? Or it the fact that our offensive line just isnt good right now?

What would you like to see different in play calling?


geauxjo
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hat would you like to see different in play calling?


Where do we start?

Our offensive balance is non existent. We can’t run the ball. We often don’t even try. That might work vs Vandy or Missouri but it’s going to bite us later in the season.

Our red-zone play calling is bland, unimaginative and simple to figure out by opposing coaching staffs.

Our substitution pattern with rbs and even with our fb last week is head scratching. We threw a 20+ yard bullet to our fullback in the end zone. Seriously?

Our 3rd down conversion percentage is likely last in the conference. That’s not just a 3rd down issue. That says we’re putting ourselves in too many 3rd and longs due to non productive 1st and 2nd downs. This points back to offensive balance. Our running game has to be implemented with some creativity- misdirection, jet sweeps, and stick with it. Dont go pass, pass, pass punt. RPO, modern offense doesn’t mean throw it every down.

This post was edited on 10/17 at 2:20 pm


RBWilliams8
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Well, we didn’t as he isn’t here anymore...
This post was edited on 10/17 at 2:25 pm


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semjase
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no way shape or form defending the current LSU defense and coordinator
All the Pumper Looney Tunes Bunch think everything is "Just Fine." (As they all like to spew out)

What's so damn difficult about this Pelini defense that has everybody so confused about their reads and assignments?

BTW, Offense is not the problem, but Munoz should have been hired as the PGC. (Or Joe Lombardi of the Saints)

Whoever sent Tory Cater out on that pass route should be fired. (Linehan) Yall think Brady would have done that? Nonsensical play call. Total absence of situational awareness there.


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SidewalkTiger
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Our offensive balance is non existent. We can’t run the ball. We often don’t even try. That might work vs Vandy or Missouri but it’s going to bite us later in the season.


We can't run the ball consistently. The offensive line rarely opens no holes and gets no push.

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Our red-zone play calling is bland, unimaginative and simple to figure out by opposing coaching staffs.


Pretty hard to be "creative" in the red zone when your line cant get any push or pick up blitzers.

The third down play at Mizzou is a staple Saints redzone play thats relatively creative.

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Our running game has to be implemented with some creativity- misdirection, jet sweeps, and stick with it. 


It hasnt worked. If we're running for 2 or 3 yards per play, everyone is on here crying about how we arent throwing the ball.


misey94
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re: I want Jeff Grimes as next LSU OC
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Is the differences we're seeing the lack of Brady or the lack of Burrow, CEH, 2019 offensive line, Chase, and Jefferson?


It is, but from a purely play calling perspective, you don’t see the same surgical precision in relentlessly attacking matchups and keeping defenses completely off balance.


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geauxjo
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We can't run the ball consistently. The offensive line rarely opens no holes and gets no push.


So you’re saying go pass, pass, pass and just throw in the towel? Cause that’s not a strategy. And if our O line can’t get a push vs Missouri who was down 3 defensive linemen- we have more problems than we even realize.


DocBugbear
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re: I want Jeff Grimes as next LSU OC
Have a downvote just for saying, "DRIVEMAN OUT" and doing it in all caps.


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Miketheseventh
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The offense isn’t the problem. LSU is averaging 38.67 points per game which is good for third in the conference. Defense is the problem. When you can average 38 points per game an loose it’s easy to see where the problem is. My only concern with the offense is third down efficiency. LSU is 9 for 39 which is 23%. LSU is tied at 71st in the nation. Guess who they are tied with.

OLE LES AND KANSAS


geauxjo
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The offense isn’t the problem. LSU is averaging 38.67 points per game which is good for third in the conference. Defense is the problem. When you can average 38 points per game an loose it’s easy to see where the problem is. My only concern with the offense is third down efficiency. LSU is 9 for 39 which is 23%. LSU is tied at 71st in the nation. Guess who they are tied with.


We all know defense is the main issue. What many are saying is just wait til we get past the St and Vandys and Missouri’s of the world and you’ll see the deficiencies that are in our offense too.


Tiger1988
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Pretty hard to be "creative" in the red zone when your line cant get any push or pick up blitzers.
. This is exactly why you run misdirection and screens. If you run a WR jet sweep on the second or third down at the 1, that game is over. The threat of a sweep, screen or delayed draw slows down defenses. Brennan can’t fake well enough to make the screen game effective and the RBs aren’t selling it either. The linemen release is not a problem in those situations.

You have to cal plays to help out your Oline when they have weaknesses.


SidewalkTiger
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What many are saying is just wait til we get past the St and Vandys and Missouri’s of the world and you’ll see the deficiencies that are in our offense too.


Small sample sizes but those have statistically been some of the SEC's better pass defenses coming into this week.


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SidewalkTiger
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If you run a WR jet sweep on the second or third down at the 1, that game is over. 


Is it?

We couldn't even get enough push to punch it in from the 1 in two tries against a depleted Mizzou line.


SidewalkTiger
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It is, but from a purely play calling perspective, you don’t see the same surgical precision in relentlessly attacking matchups and keeping defenses completely off balance


We cant run the ball, we cant pick up blitzers on obvious passing downs, and we have one reliable receiver.

Playcalling could possibly be a little better but you can only mask those issues so much.


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Tiger1988
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We couldn't even get enough push to punch it in from the 1 in two tries against a depleted Mizzou line.


Spread it out and hand it to Jontre sweeping across the line when it is hiked. It is a timing play and let the playmaker decide when to cut.

If this threat exists for a hand-off or a run, the defense has to respect it. Hell he could keep and toss it also. I mean there is all sorts of options with him.


SidewalkTiger
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So you’re saying go pass, pass, pass and just throw in the towel? Cause that’s not a strategy. And if our O line can’t get a push vs Missouri who was down 3 defensive linemen- we have more problems than we even realize.


Our defense is so bad we're getting in a shootout every game and really have no chance to work on a bad run game.


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