re: I really believe we hear from the vocal minority on the O matter

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Why do you keep asking the same stupid questions again over and over again ad nauseam?

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Because you continuously move the goalposts to suit your argument.

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There is nothing wrong with this class, I don't care where it is rated

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That's part of your problem. You don't care. It's nothing against the players, it's the false truths that O tells everyone and then doesn't deliver. You may be willing to accept his word for it, even though he seldom follows through. I gave him a chance, actually a few and he blew it.

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Go look at Clemson's recruiting classes when they were building a national championship caliber team, they were usually around 15th or 16th

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Remind me the ranked teams who Clemson typically
plays. Louisville, Virginia Tech, they don't usually play Miami. And what conference are they in?

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Apparently, you don't know anything about recruiting.

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I know far more about this than you think.


You just like to lash out at anyone who doesn't like O and want to pretend that because facts are presented about the man, somehow that translates to me wanting the team to fail. That couldn't be further from the truth but please continue with your nonsense.

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Thanks to Les Miles and Cam Cameron, LSU actually has a coulple promising QB's on the roster. They recruited and brought in Brennan and Narcisse. O struck out on QB's for 2018.

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No O brought in those players after Miles was fired. Hence, O gets the credit because those players didn't sign with LSU until after O was already the head coach.

Moreover, most good QBs usually avoided LSU like the plague when Miles was the head coach because they knew they would never be developed. Which is why it is so hard for us to this day to recruit a decent quarterback. In fact, that's why Justin Rogers ended up at TCU.

Myles and Narcisse really didn't have any better choice, as LSU was by far Myles best offer and it was close to home. Narcisse could have gone to a lot of other places, but he was always going to go to LSU regardless because he wanted to remain close to home and his mother.

Not to mention, that his stock value had fallen off significantly because of his two knee injuries. In other words, we ended up with both those QBs more than anything else because the situations just happened to be right for the both of them.

In any event, until LSU shows that it can have an effective passing attack again, then it will never break the stigma that Miles created. Indeed, Miles is responsible for a lack of a QB in this class more than O is. As we would never have lost Justin Rogers had it not been for the Miles stigma that is still haunting and harming our QB recruiting to this day.

Do you think another shitty radio station will hire you when O is fired, Derek?

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Miles wasn't the coach in 2002, 2003, or 2004. 2018-2002=16 But since you mentioned it, he only won one National Championship, went to another, won the SEC championship twice, one in his first year but don't let that get in the way of your nonsensicality. I've wasted enough time on your trolling.

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Give me a break, when Miles arrived here on campus, Nick Saban had already recruited him a National Championship team. Indeed, he was the luckiest coach on the planet, and if Bertman had hired anyone else but Miles, we would have easily won two or more National Championships.

Indeed, we should have won a National Championship in 2006 but didn't because Miles was always incompetent. He won one in 2007 that he should never have won because he had already lost two games that season we should never have lost, but a miracle happened and we backed our way into that championship game.

Of course, the reason why recruiting was so easy and so good was because Saban won a Natty in 2003. Then when LSU won another one in 2007 via a miracle, LSU basically recruited itself again. Then when Miles lost the Natty in 2011, when we should have won it, the recruiting slowly began to taper off. Until Miles was finally fired in 2016.

I wish he would never have been hired to begin with as I always viewed him as being incompetent ever since he lost that first home game to a bad Tennessee team after having a 21 point lead at halftime. Miles always caused us to lose games we had no business losing his entire career. Good riddance.

Nevertheless, unlike you Einsteins, I wasn't up his arse like you Einsteins are up O's asses the entire time. I bit my lip and suffered quietly. Nonetheless, like I said, had we hired O instead of Miles, we would have easily won Nattys in 2006, 2007 (without a miracle), 2011, and probably a couple of others.

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How did O improve this team?

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Well, for one thing, he went 9 & 4, when you Einsteins were saying we'd be lucky to win 4 games, and now that he went 9 & 4, you Einsteins all act like he went 4 & 9 instead.

Not to mention, that two of those losses last year, the Moo State loss and the Troy State losses are really Les Mile's fault because he left us high and dry in the trenches.

Hence, without any depth, Aranda's defense allowed Moo State to score 37 points on us and then again without any depth, Aranda's defense couldn't stop Troy State's big running back.

Those losses are not on O. Instead, they are on Miles who left O high and dry in the trenches. Nonetheless, you Einsteins blame coach O for those two losses, when Les Miles is the one who is actually guilty for those two losses.

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Space Cowboy

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wasn't officially hired as the official head coach by LSU until after the January 1, 2017 bowl game, and for

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bullshite

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Nevertheless, unlike you Einsteins, I wasn't up his arse like you Einsteins are up O's asses the entire time. I bit my lip and suffered quietly. Nonetheless, like I said, had we hired O instead of Miles, we would have easily won Nattys in 2006, 2007 (without a miracle), 2011, and probably a couple of others.

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Jesus Christ

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Nevertheless, unlike you Einsteins, I wasn't up his arse like you Einsteins are up O's asses the entire time. I bit my lip and suffered quietly. Nonetheless, like I said, had we hired O instead of Miles, we would have easily won Nattys in 2006, 2007 (without a miracle), 2011, and probably a couple of others.

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It's not rocket science. Only the head coaches make the personnel decisions after consulting with their assistant coaches. Hence, like it or not the lack of depth LSU suffered from last season and that cost us to lose at least two of those games last season was the fault of Les Miles, as he was the head coach who left O high and dry.

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Do you think sales said “No Ed, we’re not taking DLinemen?”

Because I Guarantee that didn’t happen. And how is Les responsible for O not getting anyone ready to play in the 2017 class?