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re: I just don't get it....Why do all of our guys leave?

Posted on 1/15/18 at 8:20 pm to
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
11222 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 8:20 pm to
Or stay 1 more year and raise your draft stock and make an extra 10 million on your first contract.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
21169 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 8:21 pm to
If you had the chance to make millions at 21 you wouldn’t?
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 8:22 pm to
12 players with degrees stayed to play for alabama last season including a top rated center. This year a top rated DE.

Has more to do with LSU goes after players that want to be 3 and done and LSU sells them on it.
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 8:23 pm
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
11340 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 8:27 pm to
Would have been nice if Weathersby and Tolliver had decided to stay.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

I just don't get it....Why do all of our guys leave?


Because they read the rant and have to get away from all the haters as fast as possible.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
160448 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 8:37 pm to
Yes they’re leaving because of meanies on a message board.

Honestly, are you actually this stupid or do you just enjoy playing a dumb frick on this board?
Posted by Tigris Christi
Member since Jul 2016
1840 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 8:49 pm to
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Look at the situations of the guys that are leaving. Many of the OLman had injury issues, and family issues. Guice is a first round pick and has needs to take care of his family, they deserve it. The secondary guys weren't very mature IMO anyways, so it shouldn't hurt LSU all that much.

I think the younger OL guys are more talented anyways. The offense will need to work hard to be good this year but we have some new coaches who are supposed to be very good teachers on offense so we'll see what happens.



This isn't a situational problem. At LSU losing kids early is systemic.
You can't just blow this off like it's no big deal, younger players are better yatta yatta yatta! Losing kids early for LSU is problematic. We have depth issues and Weathersby and Clapp both would be starting on next years O Line. Jackson and Tolliver BOTH would be starters in next years defensive backfield. LSU is continually starting kids that are talented but are too inexperienced to truly compete for a championship! IMO it is and has been for some time one of the main reasons we're not challenging Bama for the SEC.

Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
13258 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:05 pm to
It started under miles and will end under orgeron. It has been ridiculous, but it will slow down. Some of these kids were given bs info and acted on it. Miles didn't address it, orgeron will.
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
7078 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:06 pm to
quote:

Or stay 1 more year and raise your draft stock and make an extra 10 million on your first contract.


Can you possibly throw out a larger pipe dream for 99% of drafted players into the league regardless of the year they leave college.

They should make what they can while they can and then return to college if things don't go well in their first professional endeavor.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285043 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:09 pm to
quote:

12 players with degrees stayed to play for alabama last season including a top rated cente


Which players
Posted by Quid Pro Quo
SEC
Member since Dec 2013
541 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:24 pm to
As pointed out by all of the posts it is a complicated, situational, and cultural issue. LSU has indeed sold the 3 and gone to recruits as well as having the most players in the NFL. But that talent did not translate into the ability to sell juniors on "return and compete for an NC".

Players returning to Clemson, Alabama, and now Georgia is loyalty to the Coaches who invested in them, loyalty to their schools, and the chance to win the CFP NCG. I don't think you will see that changing.

Alabama with four trips and Clemson with three have occupied seven of the 16 spots in the first four years of the College Football Playoff. Seven other programs have accounted for the other nine spots. Only four programs have won a playoff game. Alabama and Clemson have three playoff victories each. Ohio State, the 2014 champion, has two. Oregon has one. Getting Tired of ALA, Clemson: Get Used to It

Clemson has lost 4 games in 3 yrs with an NC, Bama has lost 3 games with 2 NCs. They have been in the last 3 Final Fours or won the NC.

Clemson is returning their entire Defensive Line. They credit all of the players from Tajh Boyd and OC Chad Morris Offensive Change to building on Clemson's success. Only ALA and Clemson have been so consistent the last 4 yrs.

GA would not have been in the Final Four without returning 31 Seniors including 1st Round 5 Stars Lorenzo Carter, Chubb, Michel, and Davin Bellamy. Carter was an LSU lock until his sisters changed his mind an hour before his NSD announcement. The Big Four left millions on the table but they also benefited their school with millions, brought in the Top Recruiting Class, and raised their draft stock. But they were not enough to beat the ALA Freshmen. BIG FOUR leave millions on the table to play for CFP NCG

Nick Saban rolled out 6 5-star True Freshmen in the 2nd half to beat them: Tua, RB Najee Harris, WRs Devonta Smith, Henry Ruggs, Jerry Jeudy, and LT Alex Leatherwood. Bama has a Process and depth. 6 True Freshmen Unleashed in 2nd Half 26 Point Win

LSU wore LF and DG out in 2 yrs playing Smashmouth, run first, old school football. They played injured their Junior years. They were also the most important players on the team instead of the whole TEAM. RBs have the shortest careers in the NFL, under 3 yrs. They were injured, digressing, and needed to get away from LSU and into the NFL where they Pass 65% of the time to set up the run. They needed to get paid. LF as a Soph Sports Science Phenom: Elite Speed, Agility
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 9:51 am
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
79580 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:38 pm to
quote:

If a kid can make it as a professional athlete


I agree with what you said but these are NOT fricking kids. They are grown arse men.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:55 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285043 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:12 pm to
I thought you meant 12 nfl threats with degrees decided to stay. Carry on
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
160448 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:15 pm to
quote:

Miles didn't address it, orgeron will.


Oh yeah ?
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:11 pm to
Their center is in the same spot as Clapp a year ago he stayed.

These are graduates not even including the number of senior's that stayed.

Its very impressive when you consider lsu has what 11 returning seniors in total?
Posted by Helmethead
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
1193 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 12:06 am to
[quote] 3 projected 1st rounders are returning to Clemson.[/quote

Somebody needs to be fired from the finance department at Clemson. Hell, maybe even the whole department!!! This is a terrible life decision.
Posted by Gumbo1
USAF
Member since Nov 2010
2541 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 12:08 am to
One reason why they leave: MONEY
And I can't blame them. Even if they love LSU, they will do what is best for them.
USAF
Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1661 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 12:18 am to
Louisiana has a lot of poor youth ....they want the money and then don’t want to wait
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49113 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:30 am to
Money.
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