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re: I hope time management mistakes don't catch up to us
Posted on 9/3/13 at 10:14 pm to lsu2006
Posted on 9/3/13 at 10:14 pm to lsu2006
Why are u trying to twist my words? I never said anything about blowouts. But there are many times when we can put a team away and fail to do it because of clock issues. Then it's a nail biter until the end.
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Posted on 9/3/13 at 10:16 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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I said nothing about the half, my issue this game is delay of game penalties after timeouts
Which in the TCU game was caused by a crappy big 10 officiating crew.
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And did you miss the Clemson game, where all we have to do is milk the clock and win the game, instead we throw 3 quick passes and give them the ball right back with time to score
Which would not have happened if LSU completes those passes. Sort of like they did in that final drive against TCU. The difference wasn't clock management, it was execution.
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There are many examples and like I said, most of the time it doesn't cost a win, but a lot of times costs us points right before half or gives the other team points before half. I saw the same type mistakes in some ok state replays. Sorry if that hurts your feelings.
So basically your position is that clock management problems by anybody are ruining your enjoyment of football games?
Posted on 9/3/13 at 10:20 pm to LSUstephen17
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Did we or did we not score on that drive? We scored, so please stop the madness!
This is the whole problem. You guys don't notice the mistakes if it doesn't burn us. Then you try to defend it because we won in spite of it. I'd rather catch it and get it fixed before it costs us a game. Especially when it's a trend.
Posted on 9/3/13 at 10:20 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
I'm going to start a thread titled "I hope punting on every second down doesn't catch up to us". It would make about as much sense as this one.
Posted on 9/3/13 at 10:22 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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This is the whole problem. You guys don't notice the mistakes if it doesn't burn us. Then you try to defend it because we won in spite of it. I'd rather catch it and get it fixed before it costs us a game. Especially when it's a trend.
Then it's the lack of perfection that rankles you? Clock management perfection or perfection in general?
Posted on 9/3/13 at 10:23 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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You guys don't notice the mistakes if it doesn't burn us
The penalty was a problem, just like every other penalty in the game. It didn't have anything to do with the game clock winding down like the original post tried to point out.
Posted on 9/3/13 at 10:24 pm to BGSB
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All I can say is, I'm glad the 10 second run off thing was an official mistake
It was. If they don't screw up ever we go out there kick the field goal with no confusion
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I just felt we missed a golden opportunity for a touchdown there, 1st and goal from the 2.
we did, but that has nothing to do with clock management. We used all 4 downs and all 1:06 on the clock
Posted on 9/3/13 at 10:26 pm to BGSB
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1st and goal
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The clock ran from 1:06 to 24 seconds before the 2nd down play was run
So you are suggesting that LSU score as quickly as possible on a 1st and goal, when you are going to run 4 plays max generally?
Really?
Posted on 9/3/13 at 10:28 pm to MOT
Oh Tom, quit being a drama queen
Posted on 9/3/13 at 10:29 pm to Gray Tiger
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Which in the TCU game was caused by a crappy big 10 officiating crew.
This has happened several times to Lsu in the last couple of years. I guess big 10 refs are to blame.
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Which would not have happened if LSU completes those passes. Sort of like they did in that final drive against TCU. The difference wasn't clock management, it was execution.
So by that reasoning we can run the same play every time and do fine. As long as we execute. Running time off the clock is an important part of the game. Especially in a 1 score game.
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So basically your position is that clock management problems by anybody are ruining your enjoyment of football games?
Umm...no. I was making that point because miles used to coach at ok state. I watched some games from that time period and he made similar mistakes there. I'm not making that up, even the announcers were confused.
Are people really arguing that miles doesn't have clock management issues? Mind if I ask how long you've been following Lsu?
Posted on 9/3/13 at 10:32 pm to danfraz
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So you are suggesting that LSU score as quickly as possible on a 1st and goal,
No, but give yourself time to comfortably score. No reason to put yourself in a fight with the clock
Posted on 9/3/13 at 10:36 pm to medtiger
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The delay of game is inexcusable
yes it is, but when the play clock doesn't reset after a timeout and you're leaving the sideline with three seconds on said play clock you can't realistically run from sideline to LOS in 3 seconds...
Posted on 9/3/13 at 10:38 pm to OldManRiver
What are the 0:25 second play clocks in the endzones for? The clock is set for 0:25 seconds after the ball is marked for play right?
Posted on 9/3/13 at 10:41 pm to BGSB
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No, but give yourself time to comfortably score. No reason to put yourself in a fight with the clock
What do you consider comfortable time to score?
10 seconds? 20? A minute?
Posted on 9/3/13 at 10:42 pm to Rock O Gbralta
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What are the 0:25 second play clocks in the endzones for? The clock is set for 0:25 seconds after the ball is marked for play right?
I'm not sure about that, a poster mentioned earlier that in certain situations the play clock is 40 seconds as opposed to 25
Posted on 9/3/13 at 10:46 pm to rosiebean
Here are a couple facts
Say LSU scores a TD with 40 seconds left, TCU gets the kickoff and scores a fg or something
People would bitch about scoring too early
If LSU doesn't get a TD or fg and no time left on the clock
People would bitch
So in reality, other than not scoring a TD on the third down pass, it played out as best you should hope for
Say LSU scores a TD with 40 seconds left, TCU gets the kickoff and scores a fg or something
People would bitch about scoring too early
If LSU doesn't get a TD or fg and no time left on the clock
People would bitch
So in reality, other than not scoring a TD on the third down pass, it played out as best you should hope for
Posted on 9/3/13 at 10:50 pm to BGSB
If that's true the 40 seconds would have expired at 0:26 instead of 0:24. We should have been called for a delay of game at that time. Seems like 16 seconds to mark the ball on the goal line is excessive.
Posted on 9/3/13 at 10:51 pm to rosiebean
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What do you consider comfortable time to score?
10 seconds? 20? A minute?
Well, I'm not gonna win this argument, and I guess I'm wrong, I could now go to the "play calling" argument, but even that won't fly. 20/20 is hindsight and all that junk.
I was wrong about the time management issue, the point where the clock went from 1:06 to 24, between 1st and 2nd down, I felt could have been a costly mistake.
Reading all of the posts in this thread, many good points were made about scoring with no time left to keep the ball out of TCU's hands.
Also points were made about the delay of game being and officials mistake, it could have been. So all in all, it was a bad thread, I may have well jumped to conclusions, and I am now properly ashamed. The end
Posted on 9/3/13 at 10:53 pm to Rock O Gbralta
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If that's true the 40 seconds would have expired at 0:26 instead of 0:24. We should have been called for a delay of game at that time. Seems like 16 seconds to mark the ball on the goal line is excessive.
I agree, but in the video coverage, they go away from the clock ticking to show the replay and make comments, so, it would seem seconds got lost there
Posted on 9/3/13 at 10:58 pm to BGSB
Only time will tell
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