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re: I don't see how Johnny is a bad coach.

Posted on 2/7/15 at 10:54 pm to
Posted by Lionnation1993
Member since Nov 2013
6103 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 10:54 pm to
JJ Is an excellent recruiter, but not a very good X's and O's coach. I know that becuse every time we need a late 3, they have run the same play for Hornsby 3,4 times now. It's predictable. He wants his teams to run and gun, but it's hard for us to do that since we play 7 guys and don't have depth.
Posted by Pnels08
Member since Jul 2014
10160 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 11:01 pm to
I do think gray is needed to beat good competition. As bad as this board makes him seem he is still 3rd in the sec in apg
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29276 posts
Posted on 2/8/15 at 1:05 am to
Is there a Johnny jones team sweep on this board? How anyone can excuse this crap play is beyond comprehension.
Posted by UnAnon
Breaux Bridge
Member since Sep 2013
6606 posts
Posted on 2/8/15 at 2:34 am to
Or you could stroll through my post history and not be a moron
Posted by otowntiger
O-Town
Member since Jan 2004
16752 posts
Posted on 2/8/15 at 4:34 am to
Touché!
Posted by shiftworker
LP
Member since Dec 2011
5265 posts
Posted on 2/8/15 at 5:22 am to
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Yes let's trash the team after a win...



Fair enough. I'm very glad we beat a team playing their third string PG on our court. If we had lost this game it would have ranked up there with our loses to MSU, AUB, and Mizzou.


Again, thank God we won!
Posted by shiftworker
LP
Member since Dec 2011
5265 posts
Posted on 2/8/15 at 5:27 am to
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We can compare LSU to any conference opponent, except Kentucky




So how long do we settle for second best? I get that Kentucky is better than every college bball team in the country, but my question is does our expectations ever extend to being the best in conference? If so when is it acceptable for us to expect that?

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Kentucky would be a double digit favorite over every team in the top 5


I disagree. On a neutral court I believe that Gonzaga, Virginia and Duke would all be considered close games. Maybe even a push.
Posted by shiftworker
LP
Member since Dec 2011
5265 posts
Posted on 2/8/15 at 5:34 am to
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His teams have not had great talent


Better than all of the SEC teams we have lost to thus far.

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nor have they played like it.


No argument there.

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I know for a fact, that 99% of people who post on this board have no clue of what they speak of.


fixed

Even so it doesn't take an experienced basketball mind to see a team who runs almost no offense, has defensive breakdowns regularly, almost never runs any SLOB or BLOB plays. C'mon Johnny, run a set play with 2.8 seconds left and the ball under your own basket down by 2! Our HS team has a play that I know for a fact will at least get someone open to receive the ball (results in a layup or FT's every time we run it).
Posted by OneFifty
No favorite team now
Member since Aug 2012
3872 posts
Posted on 2/8/15 at 7:03 am to
I have enjoyed this season more than recent ones simply because so many games have been televised. I wouldn't say he is a bad coach, as they've won 17 games. However, I've watched 4 of the losses, and they are characterized by the same things: poor free throw shooting late, poor passing leading to turnovers, a lack of switching effectively in man to man, and an uncanny inefficiency inbounding the ball. Individual athleticism seems to overcome the lack of offensive creativity most (but not all) of the time. Logic would dictate that responsibility lies in both coaching and with the players for the lapses.

Though the losses have been painful to watch, LSU was in all those games (if not leading in some) at the last stages. I think he has done a decent job with a relatively young team and a tourney berth doesn't seem out of reach. I'd give him a B- to a C+ thus far.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
17674 posts
Posted on 2/8/15 at 8:27 am to
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Gotta give him credit tonight for making adjustments that helped... That run by Bama sucked, but LSU responded


I'm encouraged to see some progress in areas that have been repeated issues all year, namely turnovers and shot selection.

12 turnovers, easily the least in SEC play this year and better shot selection this game than I think in any game this year.

My take has been from jump that I don't think it's that CJJ doesn't know basketball, it's that he could not get the kids to do the things asked of them...accountability in other words.

If we can continue the progress in this regard, we can be closer to the team we can and should be.

May not result in beating Kentucky but may down the line the rest of the year. Just hope it's not too late.
Posted by thekid
Anna, Tx
Member since May 2006
4044 posts
Posted on 2/8/15 at 8:37 am to
You don't see it because it's not true...
We have several areas that need to improve but a large contingent of fans on this site are incapable of handling their juvenile emotions after any loss and immediately jump to "the coach sucks" because they are incapable of having an informed discussion because they aren't informed.
JJ is a good coach...period. His team is very young and we have zero depth...we have lost to some teams we shouldn't have and we are really bad at shooting FTs... None of these things make JJ a bad coach.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19748 posts
Posted on 2/8/15 at 10:04 am to
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JJ is a good coach...period. His team is very young and we have zero depth...we have lost to some teams we shouldn't have and we are really bad at shooting FTs... None of these things make JJ a bad coach.


We're not young. Of the players that get significant minutes, only Patterson is a freshman. This isn't football. Freshman can, and often do, dominate basketball, so the "youth" excuse doesn't fly.

As for depth, whose fault is that? It is the coach's responsibility to fill his roster, either through recruiting high school kids or bringing in transfers. JJ is in his third year- that's plenty of time to fill out a roster.

As for JJ's in-game coaching, well, if you can't see the obvious problems then I don't know what more I can say.
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8725 posts
Posted on 2/8/15 at 10:57 am to
LOL at the guy who thinks Gonzaga and Kentucky would be "push" (whatever that means) on a neutral court. What a ridiculous statement.
Posted by shiftworker
LP
Member since Dec 2011
5265 posts
Posted on 2/8/15 at 11:29 am to
Lol at the guy who only watches SEC basketball (maybe only looks at scores) and thinks Kentucky is unbeatable.

Posted by puttytat
BEACH
Member since Apr 2005
5374 posts
Posted on 2/8/15 at 11:58 am to
He's a terrible coach
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8725 posts
Posted on 2/8/15 at 12:35 pm to
When did I say Kentucky is unbeatable? All I said is you have no clue about Vegas power rankings if you think Gonzaga would be a pickem with Kentucky on a neutral court.
Posted by shiftworker
LP
Member since Dec 2011
5265 posts
Posted on 2/8/15 at 2:51 pm to
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When did I say Kentucky is unbeatable? All I said is you have no clue about Vegas power rankings if you think Gonzaga would be a pickem with Kentucky on a neutral court.


Today I learned that Vegas only looks at power rankings when setting the point spread in a game. Lol
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