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re: How much can LSU pay for a MBB coach?
Posted on 1/14/25 at 11:33 am to basiletiger
Posted on 1/14/25 at 11:33 am to basiletiger
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Javon Garcia, Q Copeland, and Sincere Parker are all light years ahead of Bailey.
You don't know basketball if you think otherwise.
I think you don't understand the relative talent difference in the conferences that LSU and McNeese play in.
Although not a direct comparison, Mwani Wilkinson's best PPG average was 4.0 at LSU (under WW). He is now averaging 14.9 at Little Rock. Does this mean he became a drastically better player overnight? No, it means he's playing significantly worse competition.
WW has a very talented roster at McNeese, especially by Southland standards. I really like Garcia especially. But to say this roster is "light years" ahead of one of our best players is crazy, and clearly biased.
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 11:33 am to basiletiger
Even if he was an elite defender that doesn’t help this team because our team defense at a fundamental level is very poor. The only way for success is to have as many offensively gifted guys on the floor as possible.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 11:35 am to basiletiger
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I've had season tickets for LSU basketball longer than you've been following basketball
That’s a completely pointless statement that you don’t even know is true. And has almost zero relevance to talent evaluation.
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If calling me a mcneese homer makes you feel better about your lack of knowledge of talent than so be it
Well your hyperbolic statements about these players sure don’t make you sound like any sort of talent evaluator.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 11:40 am to Madking
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Love Bailey as a player but if it meant losing Ward to get him McMahon made a mistake
Wholeheartedly agree. I’m almost certain V. Miller is a practice all-star. But you can’t tell me he is ward equivalent watching him in conference play. Maybe in the future. But at a certain point you need to worry about now.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 11:40 am to basiletiger
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have you ever played organized basketball in your lifetime or you just shoot from the hip.....? asking for myself.
i played organized ball for over 5 years man
Posted on 1/14/25 at 11:45 am to basiletiger
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Elite defender yet we can't get out of our own way in the SEC and he's a turnover machine
what does being an elite defender have to do with turning the ball over?
that's two completely different sides of the ball
Posted on 1/14/25 at 11:47 am to Madking
quote:If Ward is leaving because of Bailey that says more about Ward. I am still hopeful (I know, slim) he returns after a redshirt next year since he never got his name in the portal.
Love Bailey as a player but if it meant losing Ward to get him McMahon made a mistake.
And about Mike Williams: something is going on there. He left the team for a couple of games over break but has always looked supportive of the team on the bench and came in looking good in garbage time in the last game. I am thinking he will be back in the rotation in the next game or so.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 11:48 am to mcmaniacinsaneasylum
if that's your equation then look at DJ Bailey his freshman, sophomore, and junior year in a powder puff conference............also look at Brandon that is playing for Wade at McNeese...look at his production at LSU and Georgetown....
This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 11:49 am
Posted on 1/14/25 at 11:49 am to Madking
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Love Bailey as a player but if it meant losing Ward to get him McMahon made a mistake.
No doubt. I think it was more so the straw that broke the camel's back. He wasn't getting enough PT here his first two years. He probably thought he would be the guy coming into year 3. Got benched. Decided to call it quits.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 11:50 am to mcmaniacinsaneasylum
you sat the bench for over 5 years.....
Posted on 1/14/25 at 11:56 am to basiletiger
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you sat the bench for over 5 years.....
Posted on 1/14/25 at 11:58 am to basiletiger
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if that's your equation then look at DJ Bailey his freshman, sophomore, and junior year
He barely played any minutes. His first year that he played significant minutes he was a key contributor to a team that won their regular season conference championship and led his entire conference in FG% as a 6'5'' guard..
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powder puff conference
The A10 is not a "powder puff" conference. It's arguably the best non power conference.
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lso look at Brandon that is playing for Wade at McNeese
Funnily enough I've talked about Brandon Murray's downfall a good bit on here.
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mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Posted on 1/18/24 at 7:42 am to Hold That Tiger 10
I think if he remained at LSU he would be doing a lot better, even with MM as his coach. Patrick Ewing is a god awful coach and I think transferring to Georgetown ruined his development.
He's also a lot skinnier now, which can be good and bad, I think he's struggling more as a lot of his game was based on his sheer size and physicality
This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 1/14/25 at 12:08 pm to mmcgrath
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I am thinking he will be back in the rotation in the next game or so.
I hope this is right, we'll never know because the media around basketball doesn't exists. I know he isn't the greatest player ever but he can provide some good minutes and he shot 39% from 3 in the SEC last year. That kind of spot up shooting can help the half court offense.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 12:09 pm to basiletiger
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DJ Bailey his freshman, sophomore, and junior year in a powder puff conference
If the A-10 is powder puff what is the southland?
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also look at Brandon that is playing for Wade at McNeese...look at his production at LSU and Georgetown
What about at ole miss?
Brandon Murray is a volume shooter, a poor defender, and turnover prone. He palyed 20 MPG at ole miss and averaged 5 ppg and left because he wouldn’t get that playing time this year.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 12:11 pm to Pnels08
I think ward was underrated as a cutter, and had a decent take. He just wasn’t all that strong. His defense and rebounding left some to be desired. Which is why it would seem that Bailey took that role to me
Posted on 1/14/25 at 12:18 pm to Mats86
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I think ward was underrated as a cutter, and had a decent take
Yea I agree, he was more than just a spot up shooter, he could score. I was hoping this year he'd have developed as a driver and get that elbow jump shot locked down.
I doubt he was ever going to turn into a good defender/rebounder. His main attribute on defense was clogging passing lanes with his length.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 12:19 pm to mmcgrath
Well no, it’s on McMahon. You don’t bench a player like Ward for a player like Bailey. It can’t always be someone else’s fault when the common denominator is the same guy
Posted on 1/14/25 at 12:20 pm to Pnels08
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e shot 39% from 3 in the SEC last year. That kind of spot up shooting can help the half court offense.
I love Mike. He plays with a chip on his shoulder and is fearless on the court. He made some threes from several feet behind the line. Absolutely mind numbing that we don't play him.
But don't forget, posters on here will argue 39% is a bad percentage
Posted on 1/14/25 at 12:20 pm to Mats86
It shows you the talent on McNeese Roster.
Copeland, Parker, and Garcia are all better scorers than DJ Bailey. Copeland is averaging nearly a double double and would have been a starter at Syracuse this season. Parker and Garcia have looked nearly unguardable at times. DJ Bailey is a similar player to Brandon. Both are pretty good defenders but can't create their own shot off the dribble on a consistent basis.
Copeland, Parker, and Garcia are all better scorers than DJ Bailey. Copeland is averaging nearly a double double and would have been a starter at Syracuse this season. Parker and Garcia have looked nearly unguardable at times. DJ Bailey is a similar player to Brandon. Both are pretty good defenders but can't create their own shot off the dribble on a consistent basis.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 12:22 pm to basiletiger
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Parker and Garcia have looked nearly unguardable at times.
In the southland
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DJ Bailey is a similar player to Brandon. Both are pretty good defenders but can't create their own shot off the dribble on a consistent basis.
Most of Dji's scoring is from dribble drives and creating his own shot down low using his crafty layup package and post moves. What games are you watching man?
This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 12:23 pm
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