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re: How fast was Billy Cannon?
Posted on 5/22/18 at 10:04 am to TheCaterpillar
Posted on 5/22/18 at 10:04 am to TheCaterpillar
From his wikipedia page it was listed he ran a 9.6 100 yard dash in high school which equals to 10.5 100 meter. Adrian Peterson ran around a 10.5 100m. Dude would have been an all pro today. He had speed, power, and could catch out of the backfield.
Interesting facts:
In 1961 for the AFL Houston Oilers, Cannon gained a pro football record 373 all purpose yards and 5 TDs against the New York Titans. In this game he had the most yards from scrimmage in a non overtime game with 330yds.
He was the AFL leader in rushing and all purpose yards that same year and won a championship with Oilers
With the Raiders, Cannon switched to TE and in his second year at the position in 1967 he led all AFL TEs with 629 yards and 10 TDs
Tied with four players for most TD receptions by a RB in a season with 9
Interesting facts:
In 1961 for the AFL Houston Oilers, Cannon gained a pro football record 373 all purpose yards and 5 TDs against the New York Titans. In this game he had the most yards from scrimmage in a non overtime game with 330yds.
He was the AFL leader in rushing and all purpose yards that same year and won a championship with Oilers
With the Raiders, Cannon switched to TE and in his second year at the position in 1967 he led all AFL TEs with 629 yards and 10 TDs
Tied with four players for most TD receptions by a RB in a season with 9
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Posted on 5/22/18 at 10:13 am to Northshore Saint
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Billy Cannon, left, All America back on champion Louisiana State team, breaks tape to win 100-yard dash during Southwestern Relays, April 11, 1959. His time was 9.5 seconds, .2 of a second off world's record. Dave Styren, right, of Northeast Louisiana State College was second and Dee Givens, third form left, of Oklahoma University was third. Sprint was run on soft track in light rain. (AP Photo) ORG XMIT: APHS52711
Posted on 5/22/18 at 10:16 am to TBoy@LSU
awesome photo, looks like he was built like Fournette, hulking but cut
Posted on 5/22/18 at 10:16 am to Brazos
Get out of here. I was better as s 20 year old compared to these dudes in the 50s. I wouldve won 3 heismans back then.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 10:18 am to TBoy@LSU
Damn, maybe not. 
Posted on 5/22/18 at 10:18 am to TBoy@LSU
He was was blazing fast, all of this bs about meters v. yards is bs, olympics didn’t go to meters until 1976, fast is fast, did it on a soft track too, hell , the night of the Halloween run he was soaking wet, probably had 12-14 lbs. of gear on, sheesh, you guys
Posted on 5/22/18 at 10:21 am to 777Tiger
Jacob Hester was a starting RB a mere 10 years ago, and some of y'all think that Cannon (by every indication a superior athlete to Hester) wouldn't start at LSU in 2018? Nonsense.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 10:25 am to PoBoy1
Hester was a great Tiger but not in the same league as Cannon, to quote Bum Phillips, “ I don’t know if Cannon was in a class by himself, but whatever class he was in, it didn’t take long to call the roll.”
This post was edited on 5/22/18 at 10:53 am
Posted on 5/22/18 at 10:28 am to TheCaterpillar
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All of this without the state of the art training that athletes today receive. No telling what he would've been capable of if he was training from an early age like kids today and had nutritionists and trainers in college
I’m not sure the validity of this, but my dad was telling me that he was one of the first people to train with the man who introduced Gayle Hatch to Olympic lifting. I forget his name but he was a really renowned coach and trailblazed modern day weight training. So Billy Cannon’s weight training was actually moderately similar to what athletes today are doing
ETA: just googled it and it was Alvin Roy, and he did train Billy Cannon
This post was edited on 5/22/18 at 10:30 am
Posted on 5/22/18 at 10:31 am to LSUgrad08112
Maybe the weight training part, not the nutritional/supplemental part, I think he smoked cigarettes while he was doing all of this too
This post was edited on 5/22/18 at 10:32 am
Posted on 5/22/18 at 10:40 am to Brazos
When Cannon played in 1959 he was 6' 1" + weighed approx 210 - 215# ran 100yd i~ 9.4 (he had a very quick start so probably would've been 4.3. - 4.4 in 40.
As a senior in high school, AAA class (top class in LA at time) he scored 229 points and only played the first half most times. Coach Fuzzy Brown would pull him out and only put him in to punt & kick extra pts, think averaged over 40yrds per punt at LSU.
I believe he definitely would start for Tigers this year his strength, speed & super competitive attitude he would very welcome at RB
Posted on 5/22/18 at 10:43 am to ChewyDante
That may be true, but had some of these guys had the training and the dietary knowledge that we have now, I'm sure they could've hung with the kids today.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 10:44 am to Brazos
I say definitely.
Would Jacob Hester in his prime start next year?
Would Cannon in his prime beat out Jacob Hester in his prime?
**EDIT: sorry - I didn't see the posts two or three above this one that considered Hester.
Would Jacob Hester in his prime start next year?
Would Cannon in his prime beat out Jacob Hester in his prime?
**EDIT: sorry - I didn't see the posts two or three above this one that considered Hester.
This post was edited on 5/22/18 at 10:46 am
Posted on 5/22/18 at 10:50 am to TBoy@LSU
guy could throw the shot put over 60 feet as well.
He was an absolute freak of nature in the 50's and with todays nutritional and training science, would easily go beyond a simple starter. Think 6'1" 225-230 running a 4.4-4.5 with superior strength and tough as nails.
He was/is special on all accounts.
He was an absolute freak of nature in the 50's and with todays nutritional and training science, would easily go beyond a simple starter. Think 6'1" 225-230 running a 4.4-4.5 with superior strength and tough as nails.
He was/is special on all accounts.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 10:52 am to tigeramongpigs
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Yah, except Cannon was a freak.
Yeah, in all honesty, after reading through this thread and seeing how big Cannon was to go along with his speed, I've reconsidered.
He might be an exception to the rule.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 10:53 am to TBoy@LSU
The guy in middle behind Cannon running for LSU is Ralph Fabian. He was faster than Cannon in 220 yard dash; which did not please him at all.
LSU competed against Northeast and the Stryen twins -Dave & Don, both world class printers & hurdlers. Northeast beat LSU in 440 yr relay with Cannon running anchor; so coach Moreau switched Cannon to lead off & Fabian anchor - with flying start Fabian beat Dave Stryren to tape.
Cannon was not only the best athlete I ever saw but also the most ferociously competitive.
LSU competed against Northeast and the Stryen twins -Dave & Don, both world class printers & hurdlers. Northeast beat LSU in 440 yr relay with Cannon running anchor; so coach Moreau switched Cannon to lead off & Fabian anchor - with flying start Fabian beat Dave Stryren to tape.
Cannon was not only the best athlete I ever saw but also the most ferociously competitive.
This post was edited on 5/22/18 at 11:01 am
Posted on 5/22/18 at 10:54 am to LNCHBOX
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LNCHBOX
we can always count on you to be negative in any LSU football thread.
Good job.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 10:56 am to TheCaterpillar
Cannon trained at Alvin Roy’s during junior high and high school. May not have been state of the art. But, he was way ahead of his time with his training.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 10:56 am to dj30
I was kind of thinking like you at first but speed is speed and he had the size to go along with his speed. Factor in the weight training and nutrition today and I can't see a way that he wouldn't be starting.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 11:22 am to Bengaldean
Alvin Roy was trainer & coach in Helsinki olympics. Created a weight training program at Istrouma High School before Cannon's junior year and made tremendous difference the teams performance.
He was very instrumental in the physical development of Cannon even though he was phenom. He went from under 200# to little over and got faster.
He was very instrumental in the physical development of Cannon even though he was phenom. He went from under 200# to little over and got faster.
This post was edited on 5/22/18 at 11:25 am
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