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re: How did Alleva miss so bad on Tony Bennett?
Posted on 4/9/19 at 6:20 am to Run DMC
Posted on 4/9/19 at 6:20 am to Run DMC
Bennett’s a great coach, but it took him 10 years to get over the hump at UVA...with some very high profile collapses. LSU fans would have been screaming for his head in his first four/five years.
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Posted on 4/9/19 at 6:22 am to tigerbank24
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Can you imagine this place if LSU was the first 1 seed to lose to a 16
Oh it would be an absolute melt down. But on the other hand, could you imagine this place if we were a 1 seed in consecutive years?
Posted on 4/9/19 at 6:24 am to TrouserTrout
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Also this Eddie Nunez guy is not the AD so he did not hire Wade.
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TrouserTrout
Hopefully you won’t be for much longer either Joe
Posted on 4/9/19 at 6:34 am to pelsgang
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Eddie Nunez hired will wade
Every one knows this, even Alleva publicly declared Nunez was handling the search. He signed off on it at the end so for whatever credit Alleva gets for that....give it to him.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 6:57 am to mmcgrath
The fact that Orgeron is working out better than anyone could have expected doesn’t mean the hiring process wasn’t a complete embarrassment. I’m glad O is doing well, but unexpected improvement doesn’t make for a good hire. We had a proven national champion coach that wanted to come here and we essentially turned him down so we could save money on the guy with a bad record in his only other sec job. Using that to try to bolster alleva’s case shows just how awful he’s been
Posted on 4/9/19 at 7:12 am to Run DMC
So when we miss, its his faukt. But when we hit a home run, it was "handed" to him?
Lemme guess, your one of the clowns that wanted coach PM and Alleva fired 2 qeeks ago because the team wasnt hitting...but hasnt posted since because now the team is on fire.
LSU didnt create this mess nor was their reaction wtong. Will gucking Wade. AND ONLY HIM, caused this shitshow.
Im no Alleva/Alexander supporter on many fronts. But this WW shite is not an area where they did wrong. Its on WW, and sooner or later you all will come to understand that.
Lemme guess, your one of the clowns that wanted coach PM and Alleva fired 2 qeeks ago because the team wasnt hitting...but hasnt posted since because now the team is on fire.
LSU didnt create this mess nor was their reaction wtong. Will gucking Wade. AND ONLY HIM, caused this shitshow.
Im no Alleva/Alexander supporter on many fronts. But this WW shite is not an area where they did wrong. Its on WW, and sooner or later you all will come to understand that.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 7:16 am to GeeOH
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So when we miss, its his faukt. But when we hit a home run, it was "handed" to him?
In this case yes. Yes it was. It's understandably hard for you to believe that because that's just how insanely incompetent Alleva is.
And Wade did what he was hired to do. Alleva might not be responsible for the wire tap but he is responsible for how everything has been handled since...which is crappy.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 7:32 am to tigertex1992
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but he is responsible for how everything has been handled since...which is crappy.
In what way. He simply asked his employeee to come in and explain himself and reassure compliance that the transcripts were in some way inaccurate.
And before you spout off about who was also invited, PLEASE understand, WW was questioned in October in ANOTHER scandal. So this time our compliance department was setting the rules.
Let's use extremely simple comparison. Lets say your best employee failed a drug test because of an addiction. He goes off to trestment and comes back better than ever and is the top tier of great. Then a drug dog sniffs out a pack of cocaine in his locker...youre hoping for the best and praying there is a mistake....so you call him in to explain. He says, "nah, im not coming because im a witness in a drug lord trial and might have to testify...but ill be there in a couple of months"
If all the other worker's lives are at risk and hes responsible, do you just say, "ok, well talk about the kilo later, go back to work" ?
NO...uoure gonna tell him "fine, ill see you in 2 months"
LSU acted just fine
This post was edited on 4/9/19 at 7:59 am
Posted on 4/9/19 at 8:49 am to GeeOH
Your example is al kinds of messed up.
1. No one’s life is at risk in the Wade scenario
2. The employee in your example probably isn’t one of the best in the nation at his job
3. The boss’s customers in your scenario probably aren’t clamoring for you to keep said employee with threats of losing their business
1. No one’s life is at risk in the Wade scenario
2. The employee in your example probably isn’t one of the best in the nation at his job
3. The boss’s customers in your scenario probably aren’t clamoring for you to keep said employee with threats of losing their business
Posted on 4/9/19 at 9:28 am to Elleshoe
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Your example is al kinds of messed up.
1. No one’s life is at risk in the Wade scenario
2. The employee in your example probably isn’t one of the best in the nation at his job
3. The boss’s customers in your scenario probably aren’t clamoring for you to keep said employee with threats of losing their business
God youre dumb..
Posted on 4/9/19 at 9:30 am to GeeOH
I’m dumb? You made the stupidest fricking point in the history of this board. The scenarios are nothing the same. An athletic department doesn’t run the same way as your insignificant middle management bullshite job
This post was edited on 4/9/19 at 9:41 am
Posted on 4/9/19 at 9:43 am to prush
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Trent Johnson was a fraud. Dude got lucky with the Lopez twins and rode their coattails. Johnson knew he was gonna suck at Stanford after they left so he might as well go suck at LSU. Alleva can’t evaluate talented coaches. Just look at his coaching hire resume. It’s an embarrassment that he actually gets paid to hire any coach.
There's no question he inherited what was at the time a tremendous Stanford program and I'd be more willing to agree with you if he didn't also do a solid job at Nevada BEFORE going to Stanford. Hindsight is 20/20, but at the time (2008) Johnson had a better resume than Bennett. Johnson had been COY in two different conferences and had taken teams to the NCAAT four of the previous five years. Bennett had only been a HC for two years (though he completely turned around Wazzu in those two years).
I hate having to defend Alleva, but who's to say LSU didn't "offer" the job to Bennett and Bennett turned LSU down? The article noted by the OP indicates Indiana had purportedly had serious interest in Bennett and he turned them down. He ended up staying at WSU that year. So either none of the "better" programs offered him (unlikely) or he simply choose to remain at WSU despite offers to leave. Bennett has ONLY been mention with LSU due to his wife being from BR and a LSU alum. However, he had no other connection to Louisiana and he met his wife while she was living in North Carolina. Who is to say she wanted to return to a city in which she had chosen to leave?
Johnson came in and took a program that had been on a sharp downward trajectory after the Final Four and turned them into a runaway SEC champ in his first season. It was his lack of recruiting that quickly crashed the program thereafter. However, in 2008, it did not look like a "bad" hire.
There is a lot to criticize Joe over, but hiring Trent Johnson BASED UPON THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE IN 2008 is low on that list. It's pretty much everything he did after that which forms the reasons he needs to go.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 9:51 am to Elleshoe
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I’m dumb? You made the stupidest fricking point in the history of this board. The scenarios are nothing the same. An athletic department doesn’t run the same way as your insignificant middle management bull shite job
And you just got dumber....impressive!
Posted on 4/9/19 at 8:28 pm to Tiger Ugly
I was just making sure everyone is on the right page. I never want anyone giving Alleva any credit for that hire.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 8:53 pm to Run DMC
To the OP. Why? For the same reason he fricks up constantly: he is a moron and he works for another moron.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 9:24 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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it was considered a coupe for us
Posted on 4/9/19 at 9:40 pm to ellessuuuu
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"Alleva hired Will Wade and Orgeron"
One of these is not like the other...
Correct. One finished the year with his team in the Top 10 and one did not.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 9:44 pm to GeeOH
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LSU didnt create this mess nor was their reaction wtong. Will gucking Wade. AND ONLY HIM, caused this shitshow.
My God some people on this board are complete idiots. You obviously haven’t been paying attention lately. ESPN debunked the dumbass Yahoo article this week less than an hour after it came out.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 9:48 pm to Run DMC
Remember when Alleva hired Pat Murphey from Alabama to be the softball coach and he was the coach for like... a day?
Posted on 4/9/19 at 9:53 pm to USMCTIGER1970
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I'm not too sure he would get the types of players that would fit the type of system he wants to run. High BB IQ types.
What the frick are you talking about? The COACH attracts those kids, not the school.
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