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re: Houston Chronicle: Texas and Oklahoma reach out to SEC about joining conference

Posted on 7/21/21 at 7:33 pm to
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 7:33 pm to
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If you want to see what it’s like with the horns, just look at the “horns down” penalty that they forced the Big 12 to adopt.
The Aggie has the most nascent point.

That one thing, and very recent, is all you need to know about UT and their leadership.

But in the net... there's no way the SEC passes that money, brand, and weight in leverage for the next TV contract. Because that's what is going to really matter.

When there's 12 playoff teams and the majority of the ratings for the majority of those teams are in the SEC and Sankey's replacement is negotiating with ESPN, whispering "remember CBS... look at those numbers", having UTx (and OU) "brand" in that quiver is going to matter.

But yeah, the Longhorns are football's version of Golgotha the shite demon... they turn everything, including gold into smelly, runny, shite just by touching it. They could ruin a 3-way with Beckinsale and Halle Berry. They could make Beethoven sound like a 2 year old banging on a Hasbro xylophone.

Therein lies the quandary for the SEC... to reign their touch of death in their brand will have to be diminished. Our schools will have to do our part by beating them often... and if you can, brutually. We'll have to make them the Baylor of old in the SEC (will be nice). Other than that, the realistic perception that they are middle of the road in this conference will have to be pushed.

And "horns down" won't be prohibited... it will have to be encouraged.
Posted by rob62
Member since Sep 2016
5165 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

think the SEC should tell them to frick off


Agree. It would be LSU, Ole Miss, State, Ar-Kansas, A&M, Mizzou, Texas, and OU in the SEC West? It would be like LSU joined the Big12. Nope.

Fuk Tejas.
This post was edited on 7/21/21 at 7:39 pm
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
32941 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 7:40 pm to
Oklahoma ain’t the south
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
79465 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 7:54 pm to
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Agree. It would be LSU, Ole Miss, State, Ar-Kansas, A&M, Mizzou, Texas, and OU in the SEC West?


Lets do this shite...


WEST

LSU
OU
TEXAS
MISSOURI
ARKANSAS
TEXAS AM
MISS ST
OLE MISS

EAST

ALABAMA
AUBURN
FLORIDA
GEORGIA
SOUTH CAROLINA
VANDY
KENTUCKY
TENNESSEE
Posted by Cliff Booth
Member since Feb 2021
3277 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 8:00 pm to
Love adding OU. Texas, not so much. I’d rather have UNC as #16.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
39525 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 8:08 pm to
Bama/Auburn to the east and get rid of cross division permanent opponents plus and an extra SEC game would be epic

The pod set up is frickin gay
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105312 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 8:10 pm to
quote:

Texas
Oklahoma
LSU
Texas A&M
Arkansas
Missouri
Mississippi State
Ole Miss

Florida
Georgia
Tennessee
Alabama
Auburn
South Carolina
Vanderbilt
Kentucky



Include Baylor and Okie State in the West, Clemson and FSU in the East. Two 10 team divisions. Play everybody in your division and three rotating cross division opponents. No OOC games. Done
This post was edited on 7/21/21 at 8:11 pm
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14958 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 8:11 pm to
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Oklahoma ain’t the south

To be fair, neither is Austin.
Posted by TriumphTiger
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Sep 2007
10446 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 8:13 pm to
quote:

Texas and Oklahoma reach out to SEC about joining conference



Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
172355 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

The Aggie has the most nascent point.

That one thing, and very recent, is all you need to know about UT and their leadership.



Yea but they’re not walking into the SEC and swinging a dick around with the bamas, LSUs, UGAs and Floridas around. They can get away with that in the big 12
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 8:23 pm to
quote:


In both the SWC and the Big 12, Texas has propped up smaller schools in exchange for conference terms that reflect the value each team brings individually.



Fair

quote:


They would not need nor ask for a similar arrangement in the SEC bc the conference pulls its own weight


They wouldn’t need to, but Texas thinks they are Gods gift to football and they are arrogant enough to make demands the SEC shouldn’t and wouldn’t accept
Posted by Buryl
Member since Sep 2016
1056 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 8:25 pm to
Without reading the article, my initial reaction is that this is a negotiating tactic to use against other members of the B12. Texas and Oklahoma run the conference; the only reason they'd consider leaving is if the other members start to get too uppity and Oklahoma and TX lose their influence and power. They'll use the threat of leaving against other members for some sort of concessions in future dealmaking.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31586 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 8:30 pm to
The SEC has already destroyed the cache of UT and OU. Just take FSU and Clemson. The SEC would still be, by far, the most premier and lucrative league. Texas and OU would just join the PAC12 and falll furthet behind.
Posted by jkylejohnson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2016
15046 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 8:31 pm to
Let’s those chodes in. We could always use another couple vandy types in the sec.
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
17581 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 8:33 pm to
This is some leverage play
This post was edited on 7/21/21 at 8:34 pm
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13091 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 8:39 pm to
Clemson brings nothing in terms of tv money and FSU is in decline and adds little to UF tv draw.
Take UNC for Charlotte market and E. Coast.
Then take either OU ( north Texas market and consistently good football) or W. Va or Va. Tech.
Texas is poison and has been a bad partner in every conference they play in. They bring little additional value after A & M and OU.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
47851 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 8:51 pm to
Take OU and tell Texas yes and boot little bro A&M

Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31586 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 8:54 pm to
UNC will never leave their tobacco road cronies. They are always going to be a bball school, by choice. The SEC doesn't necessarily need more markets and Oklahoma doesn't bring much either. People tune in because it is the best.
Posted by WDAIII
Member since Aug 2020
4205 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 9:02 pm to
Yes it is. Missouri is not
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
8478 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 9:08 pm to

Any guesses who would be LSU's permanent foe from the east. My bet is Alabama.
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