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re: Horrible WR routes on 2nd Mettenberger fumble

Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:21 pm to
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:21 pm to


At this point it looks like Landry won on the route and the ball probably should have been thrown.

Mett looks like his eyes leave Landry right before this happens, so who knows if he knew pressure was coming and trying to go through his reads quick. But usually if the play design is a cut block on their best DE, then its a 1 read quick throw.

Either way the play wasn't executed well on multiple fronts and resulted in a turnover.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:23 pm to
Why are you laughing, Weaver?
I guess you could have done better?
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

Is no one going to comment on the fact that we have 3 guys blocking one DE on that play while Josh D is left to block thier best defender by himself?


THIS!

Why do we have JD even in the position where he has to block their best defensive player 1 on 1 and have 3 guys on 1 on the other side?

There is no RB back there to provide help. Then you have two WRs going to the same area?? WTF either this is a shitty play to run against AU or we ran it completely wrong.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10247 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:23 pm to
Damn it someone ran the wrong route and I want to know who, so we can crucify him and JD for making the Mettsiah fumble.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
30607 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:26 pm to
Why can't we just credit auburn instead of saying the play wasn't executed or the routes were horrible? That looks like its just good coverage
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:28 pm to
I give AU credit for the coverage not for the WR looking to run the wrong route or the coaches play call that puts a weak LT up against AU's best player 1 on 1 while allowing the other DE to have 3 guys on him.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:41 pm to
JJ would have spun and avoided the sack for 20 yards rushing
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:48 pm to
Nah he would have spun then went backwards then the 1 guy that was up against three would have broken free and sacked him for a 20 yard loss.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:51 pm to
Agree. It doesn't look like any one player shite the rack, just a bad play executed with many minor individual mistakes that resulted in the breakdown. Overall, Mett not getting rid of or holding onto the ball better. A "better" chop block probably wouldn't have changed much as far as the play resulting in positive yardage.

Lot of good analysis here though.
Posted by fjohns1
Member since Oct 2011
1333 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:56 pm to
Man i'm having a hard time understanding why josh has to block cory by himself and we have a 3 on 1 on the other side. Just mindboggling
Posted by jpguidry23
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2011
433 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 3:03 pm to
This is what i see:
play was designed to the the left, obvious by the cut block. Mett looks right first to hold the coverage, looks back left to throw to the outside receiver who was trying to run post route to the inside to the wide open spot on the field, when he looks back LemonEar is in his face end of play
Posted by tigerbill002
Member since May 2008
2317 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 3:09 pm to

Look at Lael Collins at Guard completely owning his man one-on-one. I can see why Les likes Collins at left guard. He's a dominant force there.
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
9704 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

A "better" chop block probably wouldn't have changed much as far as the play resulting in positive yardage.


To clear this up a cut block is not a chop block. A cut block entails one blocker fronting up a defender and then rolling/cutting his legs out, which is legal. A chop block is illegal, and entails one blocker engaging a defender face up and another blocker then chopping the defenders legs from the side or back while the original blocker is still engaged with the defender trying to push him backward, which often leads to injuries to the knees/ankles. They are not remotely the same.

68 could have waited a little longer to cut him, but it's not like he is going to give the QB another 2 seconds in doing so, especially against a high motor guy like 55. If you can't throw the ball near Landry you run or eat it.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 3:37 pm to
Big Josh D. trying to show his buddy Miles how to really eat grass.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 3:41 pm to
Auburn had the right defense called for LSU's play, and Mettenberger made a good decision not to try and throw to the hot receiver. Mettenberger could have stepped up in the pocket and bought time to look for another receiver, but he didn't. Taking the sack, and being forced to punt, would have been an acceptable result given the way LSU's special teams and defense were performing. Not securing the football while being sacked was the mistake that LSU could not afford.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

It was a short route on the near side that got jumped,


this and mett didn't have enough time to pick anyone else up. the play didn't work; that happens. my problem is that mett didn't protect the ball (and of course the lack of protection on the left side).
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

To clear this up a cut block is not a chop block.
Yes, I fricked it up.
Posted by GonzoLeslie
Alabama
Member since Sep 2011
3695 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 4:22 pm to
3 man rush??

THREE MAN RUSH?! and we're tripled up dee ford..

This post was edited on 9/25/12 at 4:23 pm
Posted by CreoleGumbo
Faubourg Bayou St. John
Member since Sep 2003
1829 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

It's a 5 WR set with Mett alone in the backfield. He really should have a ticker in his head. It was supposed to be a quick pass. It wasn't there or the WR messed up, but Mett needs to be able to protect the football better.


this.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
17271 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 5:39 pm to
quote:

Is no one going to comment on the fact that we have 3 guys blocking one DE on that play while Josh D is left to block thier best defender by himself?


Did y'all not read my post about five down from the OP on pg 1? No wonder we can't execute a simple analysis of a single play - everyone's just on a different sheet of music playin' their own tune!

PS: this is a refreshing thread; much better than the usual 'my mom can cook better french fries than yours' type thingy.
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