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re: Horrible WR routes on 2nd Mettenberger fumble
Posted on 9/25/12 at 1:34 pm to RANDY44
Posted on 9/25/12 at 1:34 pm to RANDY44
I still think LSU's route design leaves alot to be desired. If those two by design were supposed to be in the same area to ne something is wrong. Why are they not designing routes to run DBs out of the primary receivers area insead of towards them? I think one of those recievers ran the wrong route.
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Posted on 9/25/12 at 1:46 pm to TigerFanNKaty
Is no one going to comment on the fact that we have 3 guys blocking one DE on that play while Josh D is left to block thier best defender by himself?
Posted on 9/25/12 at 1:46 pm to TigerFanNKaty
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I think one of those recievers ran the wrong route.
All 5 got jammed.
If one were running a post and one running a wheel hitch and go or even a hook or a whatever the frick, they would have been jammed in the same manner. They never finished their routes...
Did you watch the video? Neither of those 2 broke loose from the jam. They were released by the defense when the sack/fumble happened. Their momentum took them in that direction and they were basically jogging in what COULD be out routes...if you werent looking at a still image.
The OP stillshot is one frame before Mett's first move to tuck and run.
Your opinion, however much apprecaited, is wrong.
This post was edited on 9/25/12 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 9/25/12 at 1:49 pm to AlwysATgr
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AlwysATgr
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I'm a self-acclaimed 'clueless' on the OL schemes but the other thing that stands out from the photo is that AU rushed 3. We have JD iso'd on Lemonier and 3 on 1 on the right side. Just seems like a misappropriate use of resources.
That's my entire point in the thread you responded to me in. We need better blocking schemes so that we don't leave the currently least capable OL player from having to go one-on-one on the blind side against the defense's best player.
That is simple coaching 101. DON'T DO THAT. BAD COACH...BAD!
Posted on 9/25/12 at 1:51 pm to Broketec
No didn't watch the damn video. But you have found a more glaring problem. Our recievers can't get through being jammed at the line frick we are screwed.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 1:52 pm to AlwysATgr
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I'm a self-acclaimed 'clueless' on the OL schemes
at least you admit it
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We have JD iso'd on Lemonier and 3 on 1 on the right side. Just seems like a misappropriate use of resources
that ain't coach speak
agree 100%
Posted on 9/25/12 at 1:55 pm to Broketec
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Neither of those 2 broke loose from the jam. They were released by the defense when the sack/fumble happened. Their momentum took them in that direction and they were basically jogging in what COULD be out routes...if you werent looking at a still image.
Um not quite. The receiver were bumped about 3 yards off the los. Neither one was jammed and it didn't take them off their routes. Landry was coming open when Mett decided to look to the other side of the field.
This post was edited on 9/25/12 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:01 pm to EarthwormJim
68 rolling around on the ground is a bit concerning. No?
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:01 pm to TigerWerm
Josh D 
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:02 pm to TheDoc
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68 rolling around on the ground is a bit concerning. No?
Sure, but it was a cut block and he already admitted to using poor technique on it.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:03 pm to TheDoc
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68 rolling around on the ground is a bit concerning. No?
no, that's where you end up on a cut block...
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:04 pm to EarthwormJim
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The receiver were bumped about 3 yards off the los
The cornerbacks lined up 1 yard off the ball. They took half a step back before making contact. It wasn't a bump, it was a jam.
Either way, when Mett looked off the right side, all 3 options were engaged.
I love it. We go nuts on a QB who never looks past his 1st option, and we want to crucify a QB who goes through his reads. I really love it.
*Edit* and blame the WRs. Just give credit to good pass coverage and a beast mode linebacker. Thats really the long and short of this entire debate.
Lemon Ear and the Auburn secondary played a good down of football. The end. Sometimes the other team is allowed to do good.
This post was edited on 9/25/12 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:06 pm to Broketec
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I love it. We go nuts on a QB who never looks past his 1st option, and we want to crucify a QB who goes through his reads. I really love it
Nobody's crucifying him. Is it not possible that he came off his read too quick?
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:08 pm to EarthwormJim
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Is it not possible that he came off his read too quick?
He had to have seen that cutblock in his periferal* vision.
I'd guess he sensed the pressure coming and if he released the ball, none of his options were past the 1st down marker anyway.
He made the smart play. He didn't force it short, he didn't throw it in a panic deep. He tucked it and was trying to secure the ball and take the sack. He just failed to hold on to the ball. The end, no?
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:10 pm to Broketec
IMO, you throw the ball to Landry on that play in an area that only he can catch the ball.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:10 pm to EarthwormJim
Bull shite they were not jammed the tight end runs an out along with inside reciever which puts them in the same general area. Bad route design. If Met would have had time to throw the pass may well have been picked.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:14 pm to TigerWerm
Landry is open and mett likely would've saw him if he didn't have to worry about 55 about to decleat him
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:14 pm to TigerFanNKaty
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Bull shite they were not jammed the tight end runs an out along with inside reciever which puts them in the same general area. Bad route design. If Met would have had time to throw the pass may well have been picked.
DERP
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:17 pm to sunnydaze
Went back and watched it again, they were hit about 4-5 yards off the ball. They still both run the same route and end up within 3 yards of each other. The tight end looked like he cut hid route off when he got hit.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:20 pm to DEANintheYAY
Initially Landry wasn't open. He got open after mett looked the other way, but posters give him shite for staring down receivers. Dude looked at all 5 of them, he didn't have time to look back to the right due to 55
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