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History Class: The Last Days of Charles McClendon
Posted on 6/25/20 at 3:59 am
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 5:25 am to Jesus Magillicutty
Love this blast from the past. Great article- great memories of Cholly Mac and simpler times gone by. Lots of nostalgia there. Loved seeing that interview with him- never seen that before and the sideline video was awesome. Thanks again for sharing this.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 6:40 am to Jesus Magillicutty
Shows that LSU fans were unrealistic assholes, even 40 years ago
Posted on 6/25/20 at 6:44 am to Jesus Magillicutty
I wasn’t alive when all that happened but I remember the end of Les’s time here people kept saying it’s just like the end of McClendon’s time. After reading that article the two scenarios are very similar.
Older coaches trying to hold on to older philosophies while the game around then is moving in a new direction and they couldn’t beat Bama coached by an all time great legend.
Older coaches trying to hold on to older philosophies while the game around then is moving in a new direction and they couldn’t beat Bama coached by an all time great legend.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 7:03 am to Rouge
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Shows that LSU fans were unrealistic a-holes, even 40 years ago
I wasn't a "help Mac pack" type. And it's not altogether true that Mac wasn't open to change. We went to the veer in '74. But the QB it was designed for (Mike Miley) left to play MLB for the Angels.
What followed was a 5-5-1 in '74 and 4-7 in '75. Mac never really recovered from that.
After 9 straight losses to Bama it was time for us to consider our options.
FTR, Mac should be given credit for navigating through the integration period.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 7:09 am to geauxtigers33
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I wasn’t alive when all that happened but I remember the end of Les’s time here people kept saying it’s just like the end of McClendon’s time.
I was and it was NOTHING like Les's undoing. Les was his own worst enemy. Cholly was just old.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 7:11 am to justsaygeaux2
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Cholly was just old.
Mac was 56 in his last season at LSU
Orgeron is 58 now
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 7:35 am to otowntiger
The best coach on LSU's staff in the early 80's was Mack Brown
He would have recruited and built a program and may have lasted twenty years at LSU had someone had the foresight
He would have recruited and built a program and may have lasted twenty years at LSU had someone had the foresight
Posted on 6/25/20 at 7:48 am to Jesus Magillicutty
Just that quote, you could substitute Les almost completely.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 8:15 am to AlwysATgr
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We went to the veer in '74. But the QB it was designed for (Mike Miley) left to play MLB for the Angels.
What followed was a 5-5-1 in '74 and 4-7 in '75. Mac never really recovered from that.
He made Trimble the qb and kept the veer,and that led to the most fumbles ever for an LSU team. That showed his stubbornness! I loved cholly Mac, but it was time for him to retire. Actually reminds me of the Miles situation. They were old school running game coaches.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:02 am to Rouge
It was time to move on from Cholly Mac. The game had passed him by, and he refused or failed to adapt, including making a needed change at offensive coordinator. If you look at his record in the last few years before he was forced out, he had almost no wins against teams that had a winning record. He beat bad teams regularly, but wasn’t competitive against good teams. LSU fans expected LSU to compete with the better teams in the conference. Mac just couldn’t do that in those last few years. I didn’t like the way many fans treated him at the end, but it was time to move on.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:13 am to nicholastiger
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The best coach on LSU's staff in the early 80's was Mack Brown
You mean the ONE year he was here?
I agree though, would’ve been a great hire.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:19 am to Rouge
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Mac was 56 in his last season at LSU
Orgeron is 58 now
Men were older in body and spirit back then.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:26 am to tigerinridgeland
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wasn’t competitive against good teams.
Huh?
10-7 L @number 1 Nebraska in 75
6-6 Tie with number 1 Nebraska in 76
36-14 W number 9 Florida in 77
20-15 L number 18 Mizzou in 78
24-19 L to number 8 FSU in 79
17-12 L to number 1 USC in 79
3-0 L to number 1 Alabama in 79
Not enough wins, but definitely competitive.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:28 am to Jesus Magillicutty
I remember all the Help MAC pack signs and cheers. And it wasn’t just that last year. Like Les Miles, a respected man who had great achievements and who we respected and admired- but it was time.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:30 am to Lsupimp
I remember the old guys in our section yelling “Quick Kick, MAC” every time we got the ball, lol. They hated Charlie Peavey, the OC.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:31 am to rrboy
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He made Trimble the qb and kept the veer,and that led to the most fumbles ever for an LSU team. That showed his stubbornness!
Carl Otis and Billy Broussard alternated as QB in '74. We went back to the I-formation in '75.
How do you conclude Mac was stubborn from this?
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:46 am to Cincinnati Bowtie
Charlie MAC was a great man. He was a regular guy without an attitude. He could be one of the guys. He was loyal to his team and his coaches.
He wouldn’t change, he wouldn’t bring in new coaches, and he tried to evolve but inevitably the program got stale and wd sliwly declined from where we were in 1969.
It didn’t happen all at once, but things slipped. We competed well, sometimes very well; however, we quit competing for SEC honors and that did him in.
Is there an easy way for a legend to bow out? If there is I wish Coach Mac had found it.
He wouldn’t change, he wouldn’t bring in new coaches, and he tried to evolve but inevitably the program got stale and wd sliwly declined from where we were in 1969.
It didn’t happen all at once, but things slipped. We competed well, sometimes very well; however, we quit competing for SEC honors and that did him in.
Is there an easy way for a legend to bow out? If there is I wish Coach Mac had found it.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:50 am to Jesus Magillicutty
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LSU could no longer compete by running the football
Les Miles 30 years later: “hold my beer”
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:55 am to Jesus Magillicutty
Excellent post. I started coming to the stadium with my dad in the late 60’s this brings back lots of great memories both good and bad . Thanks
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