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Hey heres our safety whiffing on a td run

Posted on 10/6/26 at 9:00 am
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 10/6/26 at 9:00 am
LINK


Folks still down voting me for saying Tyson was a bad pick when Downs was there can fly a fricking kite.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 10/6/26 at 9:03 am to
We need talent all over
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 10/6/26 at 9:03 am to
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need talent all over


Like a safety thats got 3 forced fumbles already?
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 10/6/26 at 9:04 am to
Sure. Or another WR that gets separation
Posted by Mushroom1968
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Posted on 10/6/26 at 9:05 am to
He should have made the play but that's one of the biggest holes I've seen (joke potential) in a while.

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saying Tyson was a bad pick


Irrelevant conversation until we see him play. Will continue to be an irrelevant conversation until well into next season.
Posted by tigerfan88
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Posted on 10/6/26 at 9:06 am to
Dallas’ defense may be worse than ours. Bain is the worst DE in football and the Bucs are 0-4.

Criticizing general FO performance is fair. Acting like the Tyson pick, in particular over downs and Bain, is somehow a pressing concern is ludicrous.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 10/6/26 at 9:07 am to
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Or another WR that gets separation


The passing game is the last thing this team has issues with.

They refused to address the secondary.

Fuaga looks like a bust

Stutsman too
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 10/6/26 at 9:08 am to
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Will continue to be an irrelevant conversation until well into next season.


Its relevant until he can play 10 games in a row.
Posted by Mushroom1968
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Posted on 10/6/26 at 9:09 am to
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Fuaga looks like a bust



Has been disappointing this year. Was banged up most of last year so understood. Not this year though.
Posted by Mushroom1968
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Posted on 10/6/26 at 9:10 am to
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Its relevant until he can play 10 games in a row.


If that's the case going into year 3 and 4 then sure. Right now it's his first year, so, irrelevant. We will see
Posted by tigerfan88
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Posted on 10/6/26 at 9:14 am to
Fuaga is a concern but not the biggest concern. He’s playing no worse than the rest of the o-line. So again either we struck out on all of them via talent evaluation or we have a scheme/coaching/gameplanning problem.

Stutsman sucked but he was a fourth round pick. Let’s also not forget how bad Zach Baun was for a few years here until he blossomed. The issue is we’re asking this mid round first and second year players to be the backbone of our units instead of spot contributors or playing surrounded by veteran talent.
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 10/6/26 at 9:16 am to
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The passing game is the last thing this team has issues with.


it was not last year. Bryce Lance doesn't catch a thing thrown at him and Vele was injured most of last year.

Olave had very real injury concerns with the blood clot (career ender if it reoccurs) and the concussions (same)

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Stutsman too

4th round pick
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Fuaga looks like a bust

doesn't look great at tackle but Mauigoa was a guard also. there wasn't a tackle on the board for us expected to go around our selection

The calculation of drafting Tyson hasn't changed--WR1's command 33-40 million dollars per year while safeties command low 20's.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 10/6/26 at 9:24 am to
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that's the case going into year 3 and 4 then sure. Right now it's his first year, so, irrelevant. We will see


No, an injury prone player has to shed the label by playing consistently. He hasn't in 3 years. Until he does it will be a concern.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 10/6/26 at 9:25 am to
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Bryce Lance doesn't catch a thing thrown at him


What chance did he have yesterday? It was mostly deep shots shough missed on
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 10/6/26 at 9:26 am to
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What chance did he have yesterday? It was mostly deep shots shough missed on


Vele seems to catch nearly every ball
Posted by Tank77
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Posted on 10/6/26 at 9:26 am to
lol Staley would have Downs 15 yards deep neutralizing his effectiveness
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 10/6/26 at 9:26 am to
We have two NFL caliber WRs on the roster not counting the rookies. There are too many holes on the roster to say, “ha! Downs would’ve solved x, y, and z.” Does Downs help? Maybe. But looking at this as some win now thing is asinine.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 10/6/26 at 9:28 am to
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Vele seems to catch nearly every ball


Because hes not constantly running go routes like lance
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 10/6/26 at 9:29 am to
right so he's a one dimensional player? meaning we needed more weapons to help Shough out
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/6/26 at 9:30 am to
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There are too many holes on the roster to say, “ha! Downs would’ve solved x, y, and z.” Does Downs help? Maybe. But looking at this as some win now thing is asinine.


You needed secondary in a bad way. Downs was one of the highest graded players and one of the most cant miss prospects in this draft. He has already made impactful plays, even on a bad defense.

I'd love to be wrong but goddammit Mickey Loomis made these moves. Remind me of his track record again?
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