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re: Here is my Baseball information
Posted on 7/6/21 at 12:12 pm to ell_13
Posted on 7/6/21 at 12:12 pm to ell_13
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But unfortunately, like them, he's a two-pitch, high effort guy who may not have a ton of success going 3 times through a lineup.
This is the key point. Fontenot needs a third (and fourth) pitch. He’s not going anywhere at the next level without it, so he should work hard on that. Even without that development Fontenot could be used in long relief, instead of closing.
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 12:18 pm to Penrod
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times through a lineup.
This is the key point. Fontenot needs a third (and fourth) pitch. He’s not going anywhere at the next level without it,
It’s a lot easier to develop a new pitch in the minors than it is in college. I don’t think being a two pitch pitcher in college is going to hold back Fontenot’s draft prospects.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 12:20 pm to CottonWasKing
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I don’t think being a two pitch pitcher in college is going to hold back Fontenot’s draft prospects.
I agree. And it’s a lot more important in college that Fontenot get consistent with his slider then it is to develop a third pitch.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 12:31 pm to ell_13
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I wouldn’t call it a crappy changeup.
Well that's ok, because I already did
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And that FSU team had no business being in Omaha.
That FSU team had some very good hitters, and they were playing their best ball of the year. He made them look silly.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 12:31 pm to Naptime
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Fontenot will get a look at being a starter.
Dumbest move ever. 2 pitch SEC starters don’t last long. His endurance is suspect as well
Posted on 7/6/21 at 12:35 pm to Penrod
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And it’s a lot more important in college that Fontenot get consistent with his slider then it is to develop a third pitch.
Agreed. His fastball and slider are both good enough to be effective over the course of 6+ innings if he gets to the point where he can consistently throw that slider in any count.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 1:03 pm to BourreTheDog
I'm wondering where you guys are seeing all of the top end, 3-4 pitch pitchers. Sure, they have a few each year. Marceaux is one. But, the majority of your top guys rely on 2 really good pitches, and maybe throw a 3rd pitch occasionally. The national pitcher of the year basically threw 1 pitch. Leiter, Rocker, Nikhazy are all 2 pitch guys that mix a 3rd pitch in. If you're listening to what the commentators are saying they're throwing, stop doing that.
This post was edited on 7/6/21 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 7/6/21 at 1:07 pm to DRock88
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I'm wondering where you guys are seeing all of the top end, 3-4 pitch pitchers.
Look at every starter in Omaha for your answer.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 1:09 pm to BourreTheDog
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Look at every starter in Omaha for your answer.
This is incorrect.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 1:10 pm to BourreTheDog
I didn't see many. Which of them threw 3-4 good pitches?
Posted on 7/6/21 at 1:13 pm to BourreTheDog
If you can run up mid 90’s on the fastball, and have a plus secondary, that’s all you really need to show college hitters
Posted on 7/6/21 at 1:20 pm to Lester Earl
When Fontenot commands the fastball on both sides of the plate and keeps his slider down, he can get anybody out in America with just those 2 pitches. The transition from closer to starter is mental - you're no longer trying to miss bats as often as you're just trying to miss barrels. Nobody shared that with Ott, Hess, and Hill.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 1:23 pm to BourreTheDog
You really don’t know what you are talking about.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 1:38 pm to Naptime
Thank you, sir, for all your info!
Posted on 7/6/21 at 2:13 pm to BourreTheDog
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Look at every starter in Omaha for your answer.
Meh. Cant say i agree with this 100%
Guys talk about 4 pitches, but you rarely see command of 4 pitches on the college level
This post was edited on 7/6/21 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:17 pm to Naptime
Not sure what to think about the Kelly hire. I’m willing to give anyone the benefit of doubt. We will see what results we get. One huge concern I have is why are coaches turning down chances to be on staff. Needs to knock it out the park with the next hire.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:18 pm to Naptime
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Not sure what to think about the Kelly hire. I’m willing to give anyone the benefit of doubt. We will see what results we get. One huge concern I have is why are coaches turning down chances to be on staff. Needs to knock it out the park with the next hire.
Who's turning Johnson down?
Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:19 pm to lesthemadhatter
Not going to name names but there have been a few.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:20 pm to Naptime
For pitching coach or recruiting coordinator?
Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:26 pm to ProjectP2294
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This is incorrect.
Wanna bet? Y’all are way over thinking this…
Who were the most effective pitchers in Omaha this past CWS? Sims, Leiter, Rocker, Bednar, Highfill, etc. ALL had the ability to change speeds and keep batters off balance, and all had at least 3 quality pitches.
Fontenot has a + FB and, when he can can control it, an average slider. Fontenot’s trouble comes when hitters begin to time up his FB while ignoring the breaking pitch. A 25 pitch 1/2 inning was not uncommon. That’s not an SEC Starter - at least a successful one.
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