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re: Have you ever seen anything like Stevenson continuing to start?

Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:28 pm to
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:28 pm to
Call me crazy, but I see Stevenson with more upside at the plate than Laird. Laird's destined to be a weak slap hitter / hustle guy ... and that ain't bad with his speed. Heck, David Eckstein made a nice paycheck with that approach.

But, Stevenson seems to go through periods where he gets much harder hits on the ball, and seems to have zero luck, hitting them right at the opposition a good bit. Of course, at other times he looks completely lost and goes down with a whimper.
Posted by beary25
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:28 pm to
He hit over .250 on the year but I just wanted to look up his CWS average for info sake and found this

quote:

5 Derek Helenihi... .043 1-23


But he could play a damn good 3rd base
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 4:30 pm
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:30 pm to
He hit some hard slumps that year.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62402 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:32 pm to
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Counting the Supers and Last night McMullen: 0-11 Bregman: 2-13 Katz: 1-11 Rhymes: 3-11 Ibarra: 0-10 Stvenson: 2-7


Who would have thought that Jones, Laird, and Ross would be carrying us in the post season, at the plate???? Our bigs have been a no-show, whether its the pressure, or being too aggressive.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:33 pm to
I said it last week: LSU's record is nothing short of amazing considering they have 8 hitters in their lineup vs the other team's 9. It's like a NL team with the pitcher in the batting order going 57-10 against AL teams using a DH.
Posted by Noplacelikehome
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:34 pm to
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Who would have thought that Jones, Laird, and Ross would be carrying us in the post season, at the plate???? Our bigs have been a no-show, whether its the pressure, or being too aggressive.


Yeah when your 1,3,4,5, and 6 hitters are batting like .107 the other have to pick up some slack and they have been doing pretty well at that. Hopefully they can all get it going for Tuesday and keep it going.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:35 pm to
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I said it last week: LSU's record is nothing short of amazing considering they have 8 hitters in their lineup vs the other team's 9. It's like a NL team with the pitcher in the batting order going 57-10 against AL teams using a DH.



It's not amazing. It's simple. You can sacrifice a little O for some D when the rest of your lineup is as good as ours is.
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
14420 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:35 pm to
Teams get hot and cold. We just need a couple of guys to catch on.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:36 pm to
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Counting the Supers and Last night McMullen: 0-11 Bregman: 2-13 Katz: 1-11 Rhymes: 3-11 Ibarra: 0-10 (hasn't had a hit since the Jackson St. Game) Stvenson: 2-7


would prefer on base percentages please
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:40 pm to
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It's not amazing. It's simple. You can sacrifice a little O for some D when the rest of your lineup is as good as ours is.


At the college level, .250 is "sacrificing a little O for some D".

.190 is pretty much an automatic out.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:41 pm to
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he won us the SEC championship with his glove in center.



Don't go throwing that kind of talk around. People might start thinking there is more to baseball than batting averages.
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
1553 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

At the college level, .250 is "sacrificing a little O for some D".

.190 is pretty much an automatic out
this
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23031 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:43 pm to
Just counting the regionals and supers, Stevenson's On Base % was 5th among the regular starters at .389

LINK

Only Rhymes, Laird, Bregman, and Jones were better. Alex Edward was too but he's not a regular.
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
1553 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:43 pm to
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he won us the SEC championship with his glove in center.
such a one sided statement
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79627 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:47 pm to
Bear in mind, we're also "sacrificing a little O for some D" by having Ross in the lineup.

How many spots do you want to give up for defensive purposes? Especially when Laird in CF and Foster in RF is just as good a defensive lineup (maybe better, given Foster's arm) AND you get a boost to the batting order?
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
1553 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:50 pm to
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Counting the Supers and Last night
McMullen: 0-11
Bregman: 2-13
Katz: 1-11
Rhymes: 3-11
Ibarra: 0-10 (hasn't had a hit since the Jackson St. Game)
Stvenson: 2-7

quote:

Just counting the regionals and supers, Stevenson's On Base % was 5th among the regular starters at .389

Come on, man.
got 2 meaningless hits at the end of the OU blowout
you don't have to know a single thing about baseball to watch LSU & see that the poor kid is totally overmatched. I'm sure he's a nice guy, but it's still true.

Would you want him up in a clutch situation before any other starter?
Of course not...& you wouldn't want him up before any other legitimate bench guys either.
Again, we're talking .190 w/ a .288 obp
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23031 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:52 pm to
The difference in the batting between Foster and Stevenson is not enough to sacrifice the amazing D that Stevenson provides. That sums it up and is exactly what Paul Mainieri is thinking.
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
1553 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:52 pm to
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Especially when Laird in CF and Foster in RF is just as good a defensive lineup (maybe better, given Foster's arm) AND you get a boost to the batting order?
By listening to some, you'd think that AS is Griffey in his prime and Foster is Jack Cust defensively.
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
1553 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:54 pm to
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The difference in the batting between Foster and Stevenson is not enough to sacrifice the amazing D that Stevenson provides
agree to disagree
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23031 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

agree to disagree





ETA: I would not have a problem at all starting Foster over Stevenson. I just can see where Mainieri is coming from by starting Stevenson and I'm ok with that.
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 4:58 pm
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