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re: Have to admit pretty disappointing what this playoff system has turned into..
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:33 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:33 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
quote:they are terrified to play Bama again. It is pretty obvious.
The BCS top 4 would have been exactly the same as the playoff committees top four ever season so far.
So what's your complaint?
frick dem. Put them in front of us and we play em. I don’t care. I know this. Bama would beat the he’ll outta everyone that could possibly be put in between their fifth and the eight the OP thinks they deserved
What’s better than besting em once. Beating their arse twice
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Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:34 pm to Cold Drink
That’s fine but it would also add let’s say Baylor and Minnesota to the mix if they stayed deserving plus it would also add 2 teams from strong conferences.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:34 pm to Nado Jenkins83
quote:
BCS was fine. Just needed to add 2 teams to the mix
It penalized some conference champions which was retarded. I'm sure they could've worked that out in the algorithm though.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:35 pm to Topwater Trout
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I would prefer the BCS computer to determine the final 4 teams...even so I still think bama would be in the hunt. It should be about the best 4 making the playoffs.
What computer algorithm would make Bama the best one loss team?
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:35 pm to AustinKnight
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Its almost gotten to a point where Id rather rely on a system of algorithms to figure out the 4 deserving teams
Almost? That is 100% by far the best solution.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:36 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:Why is 1 loss OU currently ahead of undefeated Baylor?
If Oregon wins the Pac 12 and bama throttles Auburn why would Oregon be better?
Remember, Baylor beat the hell out of Kansas state who beat Ou
You are putting too much stock in "common opponents"
A 12-1 conf champ is not getting left behind over an 11-1 team sitting at home. Especially one with a bad resume
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:37 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:The BCS....
What computer algorithm would make Bama the best one loss team?
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:37 pm to AustinKnight
They need to tweak the BCS.
Should include:
20% - Playoff committee pick a top 25
80% - 20+ computer models that look at advanced stats, efficiency ratings, etc.
AP and Coaches polls are absolute dogshit. I can't believe those were used in those polls.
Should include:
20% - Playoff committee pick a top 25
80% - 20+ computer models that look at advanced stats, efficiency ratings, etc.
AP and Coaches polls are absolute dogshit. I can't believe those were used in those polls.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:37 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:
What computer algorithm would make Bama the best one loss team?
well someone showed earlier that the bcs would have them 4th and not 5th right now. Who is the best 1 loss team in your opinion? Bama lost to us, I think we are the best team in the country, that has to help bama
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:38 pm to lsupride87
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What computer algorithm would make Bama the best one loss team?
The BCS....
Because they're #4 in AP and Coaches. The BCS weights that heavily.
They need to make it a combination of computers and playoff committee IMO, weighted heavily towards computers.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:38 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:Computers love Bama right now, just sayin
weighted heavily towards computers.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:40 pm to lsupride87
Then so be it.
I'm ok with that. Computers will like them less after they play Western Carolina and Mississippi State.
ETA:
BTW, I'll never understand Sagarin.
LINK
He has OSU #1 and LSU #2, despite LSU having a harder schedule (on his sheet) and more ranked wins (on his sheet).
I'm ok with that. Computers will like them less after they play Western Carolina and Mississippi State.
ETA:
BTW, I'll never understand Sagarin.
LINK
He has OSU #1 and LSU #2, despite LSU having a harder schedule (on his sheet) and more ranked wins (on his sheet).
This post was edited on 11/14/19 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:40 pm to lsupride87
quote:
, Baylor beat the hell out of Kansas state who beat Ou
Baylor has not been impressive in several recent games
quote:
A 12-1 conf champ is not getting left behind over an 11-1 team sitting at home. Especially one with a bad resume
first of all how good are Oregon and Utahs resumes...bamas one loss would be against the #1 team in the country. Oregon and Utah would have losses against teams with 4-5 losses
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:41 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:And Ou has? They just escaped a 1 point win
Baylor has not been impressive in several recent games
quote:Oregon or Utah would have 1 additional win, which would skyrocket their SOS compared to bama. They would also have twice as many wins over teams with a winning record compared to Bama
first of all how good are Oregon and Utahs resumes...bamas one loss would be against the #1 team in the country. Oregon and Utah would have losses against teams with 4-5 losses
Also, they would have a top 10 win
Its so strange you focus on one metric and one metric only: your loss. You do it constantly
This post was edited on 11/14/19 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:46 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:
well someone showed earlier that the bcs would have them 4th and not 5th right now. Who is the best 1 loss team in your opinion? Bama lost to us, I think we are the best team in the country, that has to help bama
My point is, what is attractive to them algorithm-wise? I'm not arguing they shouldn't be no. 4. (nor am I arguing they should).
It was a very specific question because I didn't see how their current record/schedule would be attractive from an algorithm standpoint, unless it's weighted significantly to "quality losses."
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:47 pm to lsupride87
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Its so strange you focus on one metric and one metric only: your loss. You do it constantly
wtf?
we are having a simple debate and you gotta be a punk arse bitch? wtf is wrong with you
Bama is better than both Oregon and Utah in my opinion...and many others would share the same opinion.
As for OU and Baylor who cares? neither of them would get in over bama unless baylor went undefeated
Hasn't bama made the playoff with one less game?
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:47 pm to TheCaterpillar
Yes you are correct. Thing is I dont like a select few picking. And why is an AD in charge of it all?
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:49 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:Ohio state was 11-2, bama was 11-1
Hasn't bama made the playoff with one less game?
Bama had the better record
quote:Incorrect. Oklahoma still has better odds to make the playoff than bama in Vegas
neither of them would get in over bama unless baylor went undefeated
Oklahoma at +200, Bama at +250
It isnt difficult, a 12-1 p5 team isnt getting passed by a non conf champ
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:49 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:
My point is, what is attractive to them algorithm-wise? I'm not arguing they shouldn't be no. 4. (nor am I arguing they should). It was a very specific question because I didn't see how their current record/schedule would be attractive from an algorithm standpoint, unless it's weighted significantly to "quality losses."
I know that polls count in the BCS formula. Question is what team, other than really Georgia, would you say deserves to be above bama? Oregon, Utah, OU, PSU all have worse losses and really not much as far as any impressive wins.
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