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re: "Harris did it vs. a prevent defense"
Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:58 pm to PortCityTiger24
Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:58 pm to PortCityTiger24
Looked like that Perrilloux throw in the SECCG.
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:00 pm to Powerman
Their D was playing soft. Have you ever noticed when we're up late in close game and the other team always tends to march right on down the field on us? Well it's kinda like that.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:01 pm to fouldeliverer
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Then you're dumb.
This.
And apparently the vast majority of this site.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:02 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
It looks like it knocks Dural back a yard or two 
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:05 pm to lsupride87
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Throwing it deeps against prevent is prolly the hardest throw to make.
If Harris hits a man deep in prevent, that has more to do with the receiver getting open or a DB out of position than it does with the QB.
When a Division I quarterback can sit back and eat a snicker before he finds a man and makes the throw, it's not even comparable to the exotic blitzing schemes Jennings was facing all night - on top of having no running game and two receivers on one side of the field.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:06 pm to LSUsuperfresh
The only time they used a three man rush was the last drive but they were not in prevent it was a soft 2 hence Harris throwing between the safety and corner. I mean when have y'all ever see a wr get okn top of a prevent defense?
Edit 3 man rush on the second td pass and 4 man on the first
Edit 3 man rush on the second td pass and 4 man on the first
This post was edited on 9/22/14 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:10 pm to fouldeliverer
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Then you're dumb.
Wrong. The prevent or deep zone defense is specifically designed to negate the very type of deep throws that Harris and company succeeded at.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:12 pm to Powerman
the prevent is supposed to prevent what bama did to us last year.Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:13 pm to Powerman
Here's the thing.... It doesn't matter what kinda defense Harris was throwing the ball against compared to Jennings. What mattered is that Harris's passes hit their mark while Jennings is skipping ten yard passes off the turf to receivers. Even though it may not be a regular thing for Jennings, if he has struggled the whole first half then give Harris a shot while you are still in the game and have a chance to win. Don't wait until it is out of reach to give him his chance.
He may have been just as bad but it sure as hell couldn't have been any worse. He could've came in and lit it up and got us the win too!
He may have been just as bad but it sure as hell couldn't have been any worse. He could've came in and lit it up and got us the win too!
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:15 pm to 5Alive
I didn't say prevent. I said they were playing soft. Not sure if you just randomly replied to me, but it looks like we agree here.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:18 pm to Powerman
I didn't read the whole thread but here's hour answer. Jennings couldn't pull the trigger he saw open guys but didn't trust he could make the throws. Harris will throw picks but look at his first pass to Quinn.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:19 pm to RANDY44
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Wrong. The prevent or deep zone defense is specifically designed to negate the very type of deep throws that Harris and company succeeded at.
This is true, but you can't begin to compare those situations to the situations Jennings was put in last night, yet that's exactly what people are doing.
Harris did absolutely make the plays, but when a quarterback KNOWS he has time to see the field, it is MUCH easier for him to execute. INFINITELY so.
Take that gif on page 1 for example. That is a great throw by Harris, but against one of the most BASIC COVERAGES a quarterback can see. This is a throw that high school QB's practice making over and over... the soft spot in a cover 2 or 3 zone. Every quarterback KNOWS it's there, behind the linebackers and in front of the DB's.
I can't believe this is the overriding conversation on this board. Really speaks to some psychological phenomenon that LSU fans seem to have in finding their next Messiah.
I'm fine with people being excited about the future, and Harris might be the answer, but in no way can you make that determination based on the few plays we saw Sat. night.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:28 pm to Powerman
People are so stupid and running straight to the baseless "backups" argument. You know damn well Mullen didn't have his backups in when that fumbled snap got us the ball at the 30, and he definitely didn't have only them in on that final drive.
That was just Harris throwing darts to guys that were open all game. The only thing you can say was that he didn't face the heavy pass rush like Jennings did all game. I want to see how he handles Auburn because I consider that about on par with MSU's front seven.
That was just Harris throwing darts to guys that were open all game. The only thing you can say was that he didn't face the heavy pass rush like Jennings did all game. I want to see how he handles Auburn because I consider that about on par with MSU's front seven.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:35 pm to Stagg8
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This is huge and something that Jennings lacked all day.
Look, Brandon played great given the time of the game, the situation, and the defense. That said, if he throws up a jump-ball like he did to Dupre and it gets picked in a competitive situation, we look at that throw very differently.
I'm not saying to be pessimistic... just to look at it for what it was.
Then "we" are numbnuts if we get upset over a hail mary interception on the last play of the game where the QB has to rush his throw because a d-lineman is applying pressure.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:38 pm to justustm2
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Then "we" are numbnuts if we get upset over a hail mary interception on the last play of the game where the QB has to rush his throw because a d-lineman is applying pressure.
Why would anyone be upset on a Hail Mary interception?
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:39 pm to justustm2
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This is a throw that high school QB's practice making over and over... the soft spot in a cover 2 or 3 zone. Every quarterback KNOWS it's there, behind the linebackers and in front of the DB's.
Yep, just a routine 40 yard throw from the far hashes. I'm sorry but Jennings does not have the velocity to make that throw.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:43 pm to LSUsuperfresh
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Their D was playing soft. Have you ever noticed when we're up late in close game and the other team always tends to march right on down the field on us? Well it's kinda like that.
But they normally do it by throwing underneath where the DBs aren't at. He threw over the top where they were trying to prevent.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:45 pm to Datbayoubengal
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You know damn well Mullen didn't have his backups in when that fumbled snap got us the ball at the 30
That was the backup center that tried to deep snap the ball to the Prescott, sssoooo................
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:48 pm to Stagg8
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Why would anyone be upset on a Hail Mary interception?
Read the quote in my post.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:48 pm to RadTiger
They need to put 2-3 lbs on him every week for the rest of the season. Make him eat an extra meal every day plus two milkshakes a day.
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