re: Hannagriff “Orgeron’s doing better than most of his replacements”

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O has signed 3 per year for a 3-4 scheme while Miles in 2015 didn't sign a single DT or Inside LB.

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Can you remind me who the defensive line coach and recruiting coordinator was in 2015?

Fact is that Coach O is directly responsible for the current DLine roster. There isn't a single player on it he didn't directly recruit. Missing out on Sopsher and only having one mid ranked DL recruit for next year is a terrible look.

Eta:LSU also has no depth on the DLine. Why do you think they really only rotate 5 guys? Once again, this is a position group Coach O has been responsible for for YEARS now.

Orgeron's record at LSU is sort of a huge contradiction within itself.

1. Orgeron owns the best win in all of college football, Orgeron also owns the worse offense in the SEC and of any LSU team over the past decade.

2. Orgeron's offense ranks near the bottom of all FBS teams, LSU's strength of schedule ranks at the top of all FBS teams, despite the strength of schedule and lack of offense, LSU has only two losses, and by all accounts should have had only one loss. LSU earned the Ga. victory and gifted the Fla. loss.

3. Orgeron ensured that LSU would keep the best defensive coordinator in the country yet seems unwilling to obligate himself to acquire an offensive coordinator with somewhat similar talent.

4. Orgeron has proven he is not loyal to players who don't achieve, he recruited another kicker and QB when others with talent appeared lacking, yet remains loyal to an offensive coordinator whose achievements seem as lacking as the players he replaced.

How do you post someone like this a coaching grade, with such high marks and low marks throughout his coaching time at LSU?

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How do you post someone like this a coaching grade, with such high marks and low marks throughout his coaching time at LSU

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Maybe you should take a step back. Reread your post and ask yourself if you're really being objective and how much bias may have contributed to it.

LSU while established is primed to win, but I still believe we could be a 1 loss program and actually compete for championships.

I don’t see O doing this, especially without a current elite OC.

How would O fair at those other schools that actually took over rebuilds. Might be ugly?

Miles proved an average to slightly above average coach could come to a 9 win LSU program and immediately won 11 games each of his first three season and even won 12 with a national championship in like year three??

I still feel LSU and O are making it much harder than it has to be.

The Fla’s, the Texas’, the Aggies’, these are programs with mega salary coaches that Orgeron is doing better than, of course none of them have an Aranda either.

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You think Texas was on par with LSU when ed and Tom were hired?

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Maybe not, but you also have to figure in the teams Texas has to play they are not on par with the teams LSU plays.

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Can you remind me who the defensive line coach and recruiting coordinator was in 2015?

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Ed O was hired as DL coach on Jan. 14, 2015. Less than 1 month before the 2015 signing day.

The RC for 2015 was Frank Wilson, who held the position until he accepted the UTSA HC job on Jan. 14, 2016.

On Mar. 5, 2016 Ed O was given the title of RC by Les Miles. A title he held until he was named Interim HC on on Nov. 26, 2016.

Hannagriff’s posted several times in this thread, he’s obviously got a lot riding on this.