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re: Hannagriff *and now Moscona* going in dry about Alleva's handling of hire
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:15 pm to The Truth 34
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:15 pm to The Truth 34
quote:
He refused to negotiate
People still running with this.
Neither Herman nor Fisher were coming to LSU.
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:16 pm to Jester
They ranked O over Champ. Don't remember Smart
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:16 pm to mpar98
All I know is the following:
Alleva tried to fire Miles twice and hire Jimbo twice and had 2 months this season plus an entire offseason to scout elite candidates. After all that time and all the aforementioned attempts, he only accomplishment was to fire Miles on the second attempt. So in other words, even in his lone success, he only batted .500.
He is a weak, feckless administrator.
Alleva tried to fire Miles twice and hire Jimbo twice and had 2 months this season plus an entire offseason to scout elite candidates. After all that time and all the aforementioned attempts, he only accomplishment was to fire Miles on the second attempt. So in other words, even in his lone success, he only batted .500.
He is a weak, feckless administrator.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:17 pm to c on z
quote:
This entire town desperately needs to hear this
What
You want everyone to hate the new coach? Is it that important that others validate your feelings?
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:17 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
He refused to negotiate
People still running with this.
I love how they state it as a fact as well. Their only source is TD.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:19 pm to mpar98
Herman agreed to a deal with LSU.
Texas contacted Herman, made him an offer.
Herman told LSU about the Texas offer, stated you can have me for Saban money.
LSU and Alleva, knowing that Texas would match any offer LSU made, regardless of the amount, told Herman to frick off, that LSU is not your bargaining chip for Texas.
No matter what the circumstances, if the Texas job was open, which it became, Herman was taking it. Had nothing to do with LSU's willingness to pay Herman and everything to do with Herman wanting Texas.
Texas contacted Herman, made him an offer.
Herman told LSU about the Texas offer, stated you can have me for Saban money.
LSU and Alleva, knowing that Texas would match any offer LSU made, regardless of the amount, told Herman to frick off, that LSU is not your bargaining chip for Texas.
No matter what the circumstances, if the Texas job was open, which it became, Herman was taking it. Had nothing to do with LSU's willingness to pay Herman and everything to do with Herman wanting Texas.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:19 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:
Jimbo wanted too much
I can live with that answer. Due diligence was done and a decision was made.
quote:
Herman wanted Texas so how is either of them not being here his fault exactly?
Herman wanted to hear what Texas was offering, like any normal coach entertaining offers from other schools. Alleva got in a hissy and withdrew the offer. It's his job to NEGOTIATE and get his guy. He failed to do so. Instead, he got mad, hurriedly named O the coach, as if he was first choice all along, called a presser in the middle of the Ohio State-Michigan game, fricked up the mic a couple of times, having to start over each time, and fulfilled his goal of looking like an idiot.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:20 pm to LSURulzSEC
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I'm willing to give CEO an opportunity like I did with Les when he was hired, I was not happy then, but I gave him his opportunity before going negatiger...
Exactly how I feel.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:21 pm to mpar98
He's right but I'm not mad about Coach O
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:22 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
quote:
Herman wanted to hear what Texas was offering, like any normal coach entertaining offers from other schools. Alleva got in a hissy and withdrew the offer
Based on rumor.
Once the Texas job opened, Herman wasn't coming here. Herman's agent most likely knew where his client was going for a week or more.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:23 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I like how you completely discredit the other side but are doing the exact same thing to make your point
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:25 pm to Deactived
quote:
like how you completely discredit the other side but are doing the exact same thing to make your point
Do you think Herman was ever coming here? What was the word for most of the season?
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:28 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Maybe so considering the shite show that was going on at UT.
The word from who, the media? Yea they're real trustworthy
The word from who, the media? Yea they're real trustworthy
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:31 pm to Deactived
The spin here is "Hanny is butthurt because he was passed over for Hawthorne's gig. O is great. Everything will be fine. THERE IS NO NEED TO BE UPSET."
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:31 pm to Deactived
Most coaches believed Herman was holding out for UT. They didn't fire and hire a coach within hours, the details had to have been in place.
Orgeron is still a stop gap until the Tigers find a more suitable candidate, which is why his buyout is reported to be low or non existent.
Orgeron is still a stop gap until the Tigers find a more suitable candidate, which is why his buyout is reported to be low or non existent.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:31 pm to Deactived
quote:
I like how you completely discredit the other side but are doing the exact same thing to make your point
I hear what you are saying, but my thought is that the Texas deal was not done in one morning like many people are acting like.
I don't trust the media either. But I also don't trust a single word Herman says either.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:33 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Based on rumor.
Once the Texas job opened, Herman wasn't coming here. Herman's agent most likely knew where his client was going for a week or more.
Well, to be fair this comment is as much rumor and speculation as my comment.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:33 pm to mpar98
quote:I agree with this. He is pretty incompetent it seems. None of his hire are working out. He should not have hired Jones to begin with but now he doesn't have enough humility, wisdom or power to fire him. It may be a mixture of the three, but any one is fatally bad.
comparing Coach O to the hiring of Johnny Jones as being the easy answer. And that he thinks Alleva couldn't close a deal with Herman or Jimbo.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:36 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
quote:
Well, to be fair this comment is as much rumor and speculation as my comment
You think Texas decided to fire Charlie and had Herman wrapped within a couple hours? You don't think Herman wouldn't have been informed long before where they were headed?
Story all season long was that Herman was waiting on the Texas offer. Do you agree?
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:39 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Do you think Herman was ever coming here? What was the word for most of the season?
That he was #2 on LSU's wish list, behind Fisher. If it is true that he was NEVER coming here, then why was he #2 on our wish list? Seems the smart thing to do is to remove him from the equation, quit wasting time and resources going after him. And you can't say Alleva did that. It seems pretty clear we were talking to him as late as Saturday morning.
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