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re: Guilbeau's article has convinced me that
Posted on 8/19/08 at 3:35 pm to otowntiger
Posted on 8/19/08 at 3:35 pm to otowntiger
Guilbeau's article has convinced me that.........he is an idiot
There, finished it for ya
There, finished it for ya
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Posted on 8/19/08 at 3:39 pm to Geert Hammink_43
quote:Ummm. No, they haven't. The 2 biggest losses at Auburn and FLA in '06 were caused by shitty officiating that benefited our opponents and kept us from a SECCG and possible MNC.
Fortunatley, most of those calls, plays, & bounces have went in the Tigers' favor.
Posted on 8/19/08 at 3:41 pm to otowntiger
quote:
I don't think you can compare any of those guys to Flynn though. He did at least have one complete game as a starter in the Peach bowl
remember his stats from that game? Everyone acts like he went 38-45 for 350 with 4tds in that game.
Matt Flynn did not have great stats against Miami in that game, and we didnt need him to. The same can be said for a large portion of our games this season.
Posted on 8/19/08 at 3:42 pm to LuckyLee
quote:Geert is a negatiger. Not exactly someone with alot of gravitas on the board.
Oh shite. You gotta go all the way to the damn Netherlands to find a Tiger fan who at least acknowledges the anti-LSU argument.
Posted on 8/19/08 at 3:45 pm to Nuts4LSU
quote:
In 2007...
1. Didn't have one single holding penalty assessed against an opposing offensive lineman until the NINTH GAME OF THE SEASON, despite having possibly the best defensive front in the country and being among the top pass rushing teams in the country;
wow, no shite? I knew it was bad, but I had no idea
Posted on 8/19/08 at 3:58 pm to Summer Grove Tiger
quote:
Besides, Lee is surrounded by much more talent than Hodson ever had.
Uh,hmm, not so sure about the term "much more." Hodson had Harvey Williams (1st rd pick), Wendell Davis (ALL-American, 1st round pick), Brian Kinchen ( dozen yrs in NFL), Nacho, Andolsek, Norwood, John Hazard, Eddie Fuller, Willie Williams, Sammy Martin, Rogie Magee, and Tony Moss. All were either A-A, All-SEC or drafted.
Posted on 8/19/08 at 4:02 pm to Cornholio
8 sounds about right.
Posted on 8/19/08 at 4:09 pm to otowntiger
Alot of Rantards thought Flynn could not do it this time last year, and thats after lighting up the U.
Posted on 8/19/08 at 4:21 pm to Summer Grove Tiger
quote:
(2) If Doucet had lined up correctly on Flynn's pass to Hester against Arkansas.
Or if we don't leave Hillis open on the 4th and 12 in the 3rd overtime. That play still haunts me.
Posted on 8/19/08 at 4:22 pm to otowntiger
I believe we have the talent on this team to overcome 1 or 2 bad plays as long as they are in the 1st quarter and not the 4th. We do have room for some error with our talent-lvl. Call me an optimist but I believe Lee could have as good a year as Bradford did at OU as a Freshman. We are loaded at every position on offense and when it's time to pass, there will be recievers running wide open. If he's as accurate as i've heard, we'll be fine. Just plz no pics in the 4th!
Posted on 8/19/08 at 4:35 pm to Superfly1372
With the top tier teams in the SEC, all have the talent to go 11-1 or 10-2. They all can go 7-4 too. It will be who gets the breaks and playes the best on that day. Applies to 1st SEC game. We both have inexperienced QB's. WE may have a little more talent. They are playing at home. Its a tossup. We have a more experienced QB from that game on with as much talent as anyone we will play. With the breaks and playing as we are capable we could beat them all. I believe Ga, Fl, and Auburn feel the same. Let the games begin!
Posted on 8/19/08 at 4:39 pm to Superfly1372
Too many people act like this team is totally inept w/o an all american qb. We have tons of talent on offense and a solid D with a couple ? marks. But that will take care of itself. As far as offensive production, look what Moo State did last year with virtually no offense.
Posted on 8/19/08 at 4:46 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
quote:Read it again Helen Keller, I didn't say all. I said MOST.
Ummm. No, they haven't. The 2 biggest losses at Auburn and FLA in '06 were caused by shitty officiating that benefited our opponents and kept us from a SECCG and possible MNC.
LSU has benefitted greatly from calls & fortunate bounces going our way.
Go back & take a look at how many victories we've had where one play was the difference between a win & loss.
'05- Early didn't have possesion of that last TD at ASU. But refs ruled in our favor.
Florida- 5 LSU turnovers & a terrible pass by Chris Leak at the end saved a loss.
Auburn- How many field goals did Vaughn miss again? And you don't think those bounces went our way?
What about the Arkansas game when Casy Dick just threw one up for grabs on their last possesion when they were driving for a game winning FG? Another fortunate bounce for the Tigers.
If not for what I think was a sympathy call & favorable bounces in our way, we finish the regular season at 5-6 or 6-5.
'06-
There weren't as many situations that season.
Early's 4th down catch & ultimate TD (that was luck because it wasn't even intended for him) at UT saved another loss.
Fumble recovery against Ole Miss in OT marked another miracle comeback.
At Arkansas bad coaching from Nutt prevented an LSU loss.
Bad calls did hurt us at Auburn & UF. Though we did have opportunities early in those games to put them away. LSU has to take as much of hte blame in those losses as the officials do for bad calls.
'07- No way Hester got that last first down on the final drive against UF. The refs gave him the spot.
Les sure has been lucky at home against Auburn. Had to be bailed out by a last second catch.
A great play by Jones resulted in a fortunate bounce our way at Alabama. What about all of the reversed calls that went our way?
You can't possibly say that we have not benefitted more from calls & "bounces" than our opponents have the past three seasons.
If you do, you haven't been watching the games.
Not being in your word a "negatiger" just looking at things the way they happened.
And I don't apologize for not seeing things through your clouded eyes.
Posted on 8/19/08 at 4:52 pm to Nuts4LSU
In the last 3 seasons, what teams on our schedule have been as or more talented than LSU? AU, UF, & UGA are probably the only ones. Yet we've been lucky to win many of the games where LSU is clearly more talented.
Posted on 8/19/08 at 4:57 pm to Tigerark
quote:
Flynn was considered to be a possible liability last year and lowered our pre-season ranking
what, instead of being pre-season #1 we were pre-season #2?
Posted on 8/19/08 at 5:01 pm to Geert Hammink_43
quote:
Read it again Helen Keller, I didn't say all. I said MOST.
LSU has benefitted greatly from calls & fortunate bounces going our way.
Go back & take a look at how many victories we've had where one play was the difference between a win & loss.
'05- Early didn't have possesion of that last TD at ASU. But refs ruled in our favor.
Florida- 5 LSU turnovers & a terrible pass by Chris Leak at the end saved a loss.
Auburn- How many field goals did Vaughn miss again? And you don't think those bounces went our way?
What about the Arkansas game when Casy Dick just threw one up for grabs on their last possesion when they were driving for a game winning FG? Another fortunate bounce for the Tigers.
If not for what I think was a sympathy call & favorable bounces in our way, we finish the regular season at 5-6 or 6-5.
'06-
There weren't as many situations that season.
Early's 4th down catch & ultimate TD (that was luck because it wasn't even intended for him) at UT saved another loss.
Fumble recovery against Ole Miss in OT marked another miracle comeback.
At Arkansas bad coaching from Nutt prevented an LSU loss.
Bad calls did hurt us at Auburn & UF. Though we did have opportunities early in those games to put them away. LSU has to take as much of hte blame in those losses as the officials do for bad calls.
'07- No way Hester got that last first down on the final drive against UF. The refs gave him the spot.
Les sure has been lucky at home against Auburn. Had to be bailed out by a last second catch.
A great play by Jones resulted in a fortunate bounce our way at Alabama. What about all of the reversed calls that went our way?
You can't possibly say that we have not benefitted more from calls & "bounces" than our opponents have the past three seasons.
If you do, you haven't been watching the games.
Not being in your word a "negatiger" just looking at things the way they happened.
And I don't apologize for not seeing things through your clouded eyes.
this entire post is FULL OF FAIL ....just at the top of my head:
vaughn missed 5 FGs...we missed 2 FGs and dropped 2 TD passes ... 4+4+3+3 > 15
LSU was 5 for 5 on 4th down against florida & it wasn't even close
auburn last year was not a bailout...byrd caught the TD pass with 4 seconds left...if he drops it, we still kick the game winning FG + we have 1 timeout
actually i'm done wasting my time and i vote this worst post of the year
Posted on 8/19/08 at 5:08 pm to Geert Hammink_43
quote:Well there's only 6 losses to choose from, so minus those 2 that only leaves you 4, that hardly qualifies as a 'most'.
Read it again Helen Keller, I didn't say all. I said MOST.
quote:Every great team does, so what.
LSU has benefitted greatly from calls & fortunate bounces going our way.
quote:Every good SEC team can make this same statement.
Go back & take a look at how many victories we've had where one play was the difference between a win & loss
quote:Yes, he did.
'05- Early didn't have possesion of that last TD at ASU.
quote:And how many points did the refs leave on the field for the Tigers on the Plains?
Auburn- How many field goals did Vaughn miss again?
quote:WTF are you whining about now?
What about the Arkansas game when Casy Dick just threw one up for grabs on their last possesion when they were driving for a game winning FG?
quote:You're an idiot.
If not for what I think was a sympathy call & favorable bounces in our way, we finish the regular season at 5-6 or 6-5.
quote:Well Bowe was right behind him so which one would you rather have caught it?
Early's 4th down catch & ultimate TD (that was luck because it wasn't even intended for him) at UT saved another loss.
quote:No they didn't nervous nellie.
'07- No way Hester got that last first down on the final drive against UF. The refs gave him the spot.
quote:We could've kicked a field goal, it was a fielder's choice situation.
Les sure has been lucky at home against Auburn. Had to be bailed out by a last second catch
quote:We may have, but not the ones you mention above, it all comes out about even.
You can't possibly say that we have not benefitted more from calls & "bounces" than our opponents have the past three seasons
quote:I've watched every game, DVR'd, them, and then watched them again many times over. Do they have DVR's yet in the Netherlands?
If you do, you haven't been watching the games.
quote:But you are Blanche, you are.
Not being in your word a "negatiger" just looking at things the way they happened
quote:I'm not asking you to.
And I don't apologize for not seeing things through your clouded eyes.
Posted on 8/19/08 at 5:10 pm to LSUzealot
quote:I challenge you to click on his posts for the year, and I guarantee you, you will come up with some real winners besides this one.
actually i'm done wasting my time and i vote this worst post of the year
Posted on 8/19/08 at 5:11 pm to Summer Grove Tiger
quote:
We go undefeated last year if:
(1) If Zinger catches that ball for a TD against Kentucky.
(2) If Doucet had lined up correctly on Flynn's pass to Hester against Arkansas.
(2a.) If Danny McCray knew how to cover a FB out of the backfield on 4th and 10 in OT.
This post was edited on 8/19/08 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 8/19/08 at 5:36 pm to RepublicGold
This thread has gotten way out of hand. The point that is trying to be made is that you can't write the Arkansas and Kentucky games off last year as "bad bounces" if you aren't going to say that we won Auburn, Florida, and Alabama due to "good bounces."
Hence, if you are going to say that we were two plays away from being 12-0 in the regular season, you also have to say we are 3 plays away from being 7-5.
I'll explain further....
If D. Byrd had dropped the pass in the end zone in the Auburn game, we most likely would have lost.
If Chad Jone's hadn't sacked JPW and caused a fumble, we probably would have lost.
If Hester would have come up short on 1 of those 4th down calls against Florida. We would have lost.
SO..... IN SUMMARY......
The plays happened the way they did. We went 10-2, won the SEC Title, and got a little help from Pitt and then demolished OSU to win the national title.
Hence, if you are going to say that we were two plays away from being 12-0 in the regular season, you also have to say we are 3 plays away from being 7-5.
I'll explain further....
If D. Byrd had dropped the pass in the end zone in the Auburn game, we most likely would have lost.
If Chad Jone's hadn't sacked JPW and caused a fumble, we probably would have lost.
If Hester would have come up short on 1 of those 4th down calls against Florida. We would have lost.
SO..... IN SUMMARY......
The plays happened the way they did. We went 10-2, won the SEC Title, and got a little help from Pitt and then demolished OSU to win the national title.
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