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re: Greg Brooks Suing LSU
Posted on 10/11/24 at 12:17 pm to LSBoosie
Posted on 10/11/24 at 12:17 pm to LSBoosie
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I didn’t diagnose shite. I said it’s possible that he had a fast growing tumor. But if you are assuring me that it’s not possible then I guess I just have to believe you
I’m sure it doesn’t matter either way. 40 days from first symptom to diagnosis without ever being admitted to a hospital is incredible.
The only person who doesn’t seem to understand that is you.
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Posted on 10/11/24 at 12:17 pm to LSBoosie
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They are MDs. What do players do when they get a concussion? Are they not supposed to trust the team doctors? Just like if you go to your PCP with an issue, youexpect them to refer you to the proper specialist, right?
LSU team doctors are not the athletes PCP. In fact the athletes are required to carry their own health insurance.
His side of the suit says he was “diagnosed” with vertigo. What more than likely happened is he saw the team doctors, they said it was “likely” vertigo and if it got worse he would need to see his PCP/have additional tests.
Sports team doctors are very very hesitant to “diagnose” anything at all.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 12:18 pm to lsu777
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the point is they didnt know he needed one, they thought it was vertigo. it is very rare to jump right to needing brain mri, even with continued symptoms that are consistent with virtigo.
I get it, which is why I said I think a big part of this is how often he was having symptoms and how severe they were.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 12:19 pm to LSBoosie
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get it, which is why I said I think a big part of this is how often he was having symptoms and how severe they were.
They weren’t severe enough for him to go to the hospital.
This post was edited on 10/11/24 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 10/11/24 at 12:20 pm to LSBoosie
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I get it, which is why I said I think a big part of this is how often he was having symptoms and how severe they were.
bro they told us the timeline from when he started having them. wtf you talking about?
not to mention his symptoms are consistent with dehydration that happens to many guys at the start of camp and also vertigo which is what they diagnoses it as
at this point, you are just trying to throw shite to throw shite
im sure LSU will settle but they shouldnt and should stop all care and support for him.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 12:21 pm to RB10
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I’m sure it doesn’t matter either way. 40 days from first symptom to diagnosis without ever being admitted to a hospital is incredible.
I never said it wasn’t incredible. You were arguing about whether a few weeks could make a difference and I said I have no idea because I’m not a neurologist.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 12:22 pm to BlueWaffleHouse
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*Just from his bio, the surgeon that did Greg’s procedure seemed like he’s main focus was on spine more than brain, which is a big red flag for me.
medulloblastoma is a tumor located in the cerebellum and spine area. I don't think the surgeon specializing on the spine is a red flag at all
Posted on 10/11/24 at 12:23 pm to lsu777
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bro they told us the timeline from when he started having them. wtf you talking about?
I saw that the symptoms started in August. I must have missed the part where they said how often he was having syptoms and how severe they were. Can you link it?
Posted on 10/11/24 at 12:24 pm to LSBoosie
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never said it wasn’t incredible. You were arguing about whether a few weeks could make a difference and I said I have no idea because I’m not a neurologist.
So you believe a few weeks is the difference between him being essentially paralyzed and a full recovery?
Please, don’t answer that. Just stew on it and apply some common sense to your conclusion.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 12:25 pm to talmaniandevil_25
Let the Kelly haters begin. When there is a law suit they sue everyone and try to make everyone complicit. It is what lawyers do and they are probably telling Brooks it is what they need to do. Doesn't have to be true.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 12:25 pm to LSBoosie
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I saw that the symptoms started in August. I must have missed the part where they said how often he was having syptoms and how severe they were. Can you link it?
no im done, go back and read
Posted on 10/11/24 at 12:27 pm to LSBoosie
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I saw that the symptoms started in August. I must have missed the part where they said how often he was having syptoms and how severe they were.
How about a video of Brooks himself saying the medicine he took for vertigo made him feel better and he had gotten his ear crystals aligned?
LINK
It sounds like they were giving him the standard of care you'd expect for vertigo and had no reason to suspect brain cancer until it got worse.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 12:28 pm to RB10
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So you believe a few weeks is the difference between him being essentially paralyzed and a full recovery?
No, I’m literally telling you that I have no clue because I do not know the specifics of his case and I am not a neurologist.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 12:29 pm to lsu777
I think this situation is very, very simple and will play out as such.
Greg and his team are struggling with bills and his condition. They’re throwing out lawsuits at anyone and everyone they can in an effort to raise funds.
There’s very little merit to any of this but LSU and OLOL aren’t going to want the negative press of fighting this. So they’ll settle.
It sucks. Hope Greg recovers.
Greg and his team are struggling with bills and his condition. They’re throwing out lawsuits at anyone and everyone they can in an effort to raise funds.
There’s very little merit to any of this but LSU and OLOL aren’t going to want the negative press of fighting this. So they’ll settle.
It sucks. Hope Greg recovers.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 12:30 pm to Dragula
[quote]Lasting neuro deficit is a large majority the direct result of the trauma, growth/location of tumor, infarct/hemorrhage and not from an inept surgeon[quote]
I would agree, I’d say most are unavoidable and it’s the nature of the beast.
[quote]I have experienced the direct opposite, but I also work at a major teaching/Trauma center. If it's a non-survivable injury they are not going to bother, if the pt has a slew of comorbidities and is 89, it again will likely not happen.[quote]
I think the oversight of a major teaching hospital/trauma center like OLOL or UMC NOLA provides a safety net in some cases. I’m at a smaller hospital but its staffed by a well known university’s neurosurgeons and its residents, and they will do a craniotomy on anyone with a heartbeat, and often (recklessly & inappropriately imo) mislead or are disingenuous w/ families re: the risks/benefits/expected quality of life
I would agree, I’d say most are unavoidable and it’s the nature of the beast.
[quote]I have experienced the direct opposite, but I also work at a major teaching/Trauma center. If it's a non-survivable injury they are not going to bother, if the pt has a slew of comorbidities and is 89, it again will likely not happen.[quote]
I think the oversight of a major teaching hospital/trauma center like OLOL or UMC NOLA provides a safety net in some cases. I’m at a smaller hospital but its staffed by a well known university’s neurosurgeons and its residents, and they will do a craniotomy on anyone with a heartbeat, and often (recklessly & inappropriately imo) mislead or are disingenuous w/ families re: the risks/benefits/expected quality of life
Posted on 10/11/24 at 12:31 pm to Ingeniero
Thank you. Stuff like this is exactly what I’m looking for.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 12:32 pm to DBG
That’s an excellent dissertation DBG.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 12:32 pm to RB10
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I can guarantee you the tumor didn’t form in the ~ 40 days between Brooks’ first complaints and his diagnosis.
I can also guarantee you that no trainer, team doctor or even GP is equipped to diagnose a brain tumor based on symptoms that can be attributed to things like dehydration, heat exhaustion, vertigo or any of a dozen other common thing that cause headaches and dizziness.
This kid was dealt a really shitty hand, that being a ticking time bomb that’s likely been there for most of his life. It’s an awful situation, but him reporting symptoms and getting a definitive diagnoses in 40 days is actually pretty remarkable. Most people wait years and have to jump through ridiculous hoops before getting the sand level of treatment.
bingo, and we're talking about something so rare it affects less than 500 people a year. I'm not sure a PCP would have even referred him to a specialist so soon with the symptoms he was allegedly having. He was referred eventually because the benign symptoms didn't get better after a month or whatever. Having a headache, vertigo, and/or nausea isn't something you just jump to "neurologist referral needed"
Posted on 10/11/24 at 12:32 pm to LSBoosie
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No, I’m literally telling you that I have no clue because I do not know the specifics of his case and I am not a neurologist.
Use
Common
Sense
For fricks sake bro.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 12:33 pm to Areddishfish
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Hopefully Greg still took the academics seriously as the pros are no longer an option.
don't know what his major was, but he did get his degree (listed as Grad Student for '23 season).
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