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re: Greg Brooks Jr's attorney reacts to BK rebuttal:

Posted on 2/8/25 at 8:06 am to
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 2/8/25 at 8:06 am to
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Fundamentally, it comes down to what LSU knew about Brooks original complaints and what they did or didn’t do in responding.

It absolutely does not. He was an ADULT and had parents. At any time any of them could have gotten other opinions. They could have chosen any Dr they wanted including coming to MD Anderson for a second opinion.

None of that matters.

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Even then, the best they could do is have sped what became cancer treatment to him.
tell that shite to cancer pts where it took months to diagnose. Been there. Being symptomatic is nothing but information. It doesn’t mean it IS a cause.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108595 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 8:27 am to
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bass
Again, this how how you are ignorant

OLOL contracts out neurosurgeries to the Neuromedical Center where they have credentialing overages to those doctors. He is not a doctor from OLOL. He simply does his surgeries there with his privileges. Once again, try and learn

Here is the renowned physician that did his surgery


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The NeuroMedical Center Clinic is home to one of the nation’s largest and most trusted groups of neurological experts. Here, you have access to a multi-disciplinary team of specialists and subspecialists who work as one to diagnose, treat, and rehabilitate the full range of brain, spine, and nervous system conditions. Backed by advanced state-of-the-art diagnostics, advanced imaging capabilities, and leading-edge spine surgery technologies, our experts provide world-class care to over 125,000 patients annually.





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Dr. Brandon G. Gaynor, M.D. is a Board-Certified Neurosurgeon, who graduated from the rigorous combined 6-year BA/MD program at the University of Missouri Kansas City in 2009. Dr. Gaynor completed his residency in Neurological Surgery in 2016, at University of Miami/Jackson Memorial Hospital, where he trained under the founders of The Miami Project to Cure Paralysis, a world-renowned center for spinal cord injury treatment and research.

Dr. Gaynor specializes in adult neurosurgery including degenerative disease of the spine, spondylolisthesis, spinal stenosis, herniated discs, sciatica, radiculopathy, cranial and spinal trauma, spine fracture, hydrocephalus, and peripheral nerve disorders. He also has extensive experience in the surgical management of brain conditions such as stroke, brain tumor, and subdural hematoma. A strong advocate of conservative care, Dr. Gaynor shares all care options with patients and employs minimally invasive surgical techniques whenever possible. Dr. Gaynor has a strong clinical interest in minimally invasive spine surgery, brain tumors, and neurosurgical trauma. Dr. Gaynor has experience with image guided, robotic spine surgery, endoscopic, lateral lumbar fusion, and minimally invasive tubular spine surgery.


This post was edited on 2/8/25 at 8:30 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108595 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 8:28 am to
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The allegations say he went 39 days before LSU referred him to a neurologist
Correct. Which is roughly 2x faster than the median time it takes to be referred in normal cases of brain tumors

You should try and learn something
Posted by bass
Member since Oct 2016
4721 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 8:30 am to
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Again, this how how you are ignorant OLOL contracts out neurosurgeries to the Neuromedical Center
You just called me ignorant then proved my point, OLOL still contracted the surgery.
Posted by FlyFishinTiger
Fayetteville,AR
Member since Mar 2021
1049 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 8:31 am to
this times a million.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108595 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 8:34 am to
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I’m no lawyer, but he’s suing LSU for negligence. Negligence has a legal standard. If LSU can show they followed a routine standard of care then Brooks will have a hard time proving negligence.
There is a reason why the lawyer and brooks family started their smear campaign before the medical review committee convened

Posted by bass
Member since Oct 2016
4721 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 8:51 am to
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OLOL contracts out neurosurgeries to the Neuromedical Center where they have credentialing overages to those doctors. He is not a doctor from OLOL. He simply does his surgeries there with his privileges. Once again, try and learn
I’m sure you mean well, maybe you don’t. But it’s obvious you don’t know what “contracting” means. This makes OLOL the responsible party in the case. Not sure why you are going to great lengths to dispute this. Maybe try and learn something

But I did learn something thanks to your post. I didn’t realize the surgeon that performed the surgery was a specialist in minimally invasive procedures. That raises a red flag because brain tumor removal surgery has no place in the minimum invasive conversation.
This post was edited on 2/8/25 at 9:11 am
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29665 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:14 am to
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You just called me ignorant then proved my point, OLOL still contracted the surgery.

Ummmm that was not “contracted”. The Dr had privileges there. The imaging was likely done there or at the NMC and the Dr was referred by another Dr. The Dr that performed the surgery, like 99% of drs performing any surgeries like this typically have privileges at the several hospitals or groups of hospitals.

If you have a heart condition do you actually believe the surgeon is employed by OLOL? What about the anesthesiologist? Wait until you get the bills from both separate from the hospital. The hospital is just the facility where the surgery happened. It could have just as easily happened at any hospital where the surgeon had privileges.
Posted by bass
Member since Oct 2016
4721 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:24 am to
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Ummmm that was not “contracted”
Yes, it was. See your above post for the details of the “contract”.
This post was edited on 2/8/25 at 9:27 am
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29665 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:28 am to
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But it’s obvious you don’t know what “contracting” means. This makes OLOL the responsible party in the case.
false. All that says is he had privileges there to perform surgeries.
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the surgeon that performed the surgery was a specialist in minimally invasive procedures. That raises a red flag because brain tumor removal surgery has no place in the minimum invasive conversation.
false. It means that he would prefer to that approach to start with. Do you even understand how dangerous the procedure to remove that type of cancer? It is a very high risk procedure that is absolutely necessary. I have had experience in that area through 2 close friends. They were both treated at MD Anderson here in Houston. Both died within 5 years when the cancer came back.
Posted by bass
Member since Oct 2016
4721 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:40 am to
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Do you even understand how dangerous the procedure to remove that type of cancer?
Yes, we lost my wife’s sister to brain cancer. Two surgeries followed by a third emergency surgery immediately after the second to remove brain infection caused by the second. All performed by the same group as Brooks minus the surgeon.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29665 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:43 am to
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Yes, it was. See your above post for the details of the “contract

Do you think OLOL performed the surgery or selected the Dr? That is not the case. Brooks himself, if he were competent, would have had to sign-off on the procedure and the Dr - NO EXCEPTIONS. He was an ADULT. Once he did that, it was all between him and the Dr. Like I said, the venue did not matter one bit unless a machine broke or a nurse did something that made the procedure go wrong.
Every single specialist have “contracts” to get privileges to perform surgeries at hospitals but they don’t work for just one hospital.

All of this is recorded and all of it is available for every procedure. Good luck with getting anything out of a hospital - first hand experience with a family member speaking getting staph at OLOL and we know it happened there. That staph ultimately led to her death. We had the best medical malpractice attorney in La working that case and they didn’t settle and we didn’t prove it. The attorney doesn’t charge unless they win. This went on for 4 years.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41837 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:50 am to
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But I did learn something thanks to your post. I didn’t realize the surgeon that performed the surgery was a specialist in minimally invasive procedures. That raises a red flag because brain tumor removal surgery has no place in the minimum invasive conversation.


The post said he was a specialist in minimally invasive spine surgeries as well as a host of other things. He gave you a long list of other things and you Cherry picked one word to try and make a point.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29665 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:51 am to
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All performed by the same group as Brooks minus the surgeon.
I’m sorry to hear about your wife’s sister. Was she seeing ghosts like my best friend? When it came back it was with a vengeance.
With that, do you think you may have a little bias or animosity against that group?
Then you know about the paperwork that is gone through in cases like this. The surgery was signed off by Greg and his family just like your wife’s sister did.
Also, you know the survival long term prognosis is LOW especially considering how this type of cancer comes back with a vengeance. It just doesn’t matter.

It was 2 for 2.

What people fail to grasp is cancer doesn’t give a shite about how old you are or in shape you are or how much money you have. It has one objective with great focus - kill its host. That’s it.
Posted by Blueghost1978
Metairie, LA
Member since Jan 2024
758 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:55 am to
Just go away already. It’s a shame that Greg Brooks’s family is getting involved with this ambulance chaser. He said, He said, who cares? Go away and let’s prepare for 2025.
Posted by FlyFishinTiger
Fayetteville,AR
Member since Mar 2021
1049 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 10:00 am to
"That raises a red flag because brain tumor removal surgery has no place in the minimum invasive conversation."

Ignorant statement in regards to the surgeon's qualifications.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41837 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 10:02 am to
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Nobody prevented him. In hindsight, he probably should have left the football team on August 5 once he passed out at practice, threw up and was only given zofran from a trainer without seeing the team doctor at or after practice and called The Neuromedical Center for further evaluation and testing. Thats easy to say now and would have been viewed at as incredibly overdramatic at the time.


If he had done that, how much difference in the outcome would there have been?

Did waiting 30 days or so make a difference?
Posted by bass
Member since Oct 2016
4721 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 10:05 am to
She wasn’t seeing ghosts but she got to a point where she was sort of oblivious to her prognosis. She had the absolute best attitude and positive spirit about her she was convinced she could beat it.

And yes, I do have bias and animosity toward this group. We sat around and waited far too long between the first and second surgeries. I’m not saying she wouldn’t have succumbed had they done something sooner but I’m convinced the lack of urgency to treat her diminished her quality of life following the first surgery where they elected to be minimally invasive and not take more of the tumor.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7159 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 10:06 am to
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The allegations say he went 39 days before LSU referred him to a neurologist, then he had emergency surgery.


Thank you for repeating exactly what I said.

I’m at a loss for what point(s) you’re trying to make in this thread. Closest I can come is you’ve got some issue with OLOL and think Brooks should have been treated elsewhere. And that’s fine.

Maybe he would have had a better outcome with a different surgeon, maybe not. And while a stressful situation, he could have declined and elected to seek a second opinion. But, you use the resources you have available.

His suit alleges the doctor was unqualified. He has to argue that or his suit has no merit. But not being the #1 surgeon in that area isn’t the same as unqualified.
This post was edited on 2/8/25 at 10:08 am
Posted by bass
Member since Oct 2016
4721 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 10:17 am to
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Ignorant statement in regards to the surgeon's qualifications.
Im not sure why I’m being attacked but maybe it’s my opinion. And i’m not picking and choosing lines from the post as another poster said to pick a point. The only mention of brain tumor surgery in the entire write up says he “managed” brain tumor surgeries, not performed. Just because someone manages a construction site, it doesn’t mean he knows how to float drywall. The write-up then goes on to mention minimally invasive several times.

I’m sorry, but if someone is going to operate on my brain, I’d want the surgeon to have the skill to (facetiously speaking) remove my brain, clean it off, then put it back in. Which is hardly minimally invasive.

Regarding the repeating of the timeframe, he had skilled medical professionals looking over him, misdiagnosing him, and mistreating him day 1 of the 39 day window. Most people probably wouldn’t even see a doctor ‘til day 40 or so after symptoms.
This post was edited on 2/8/25 at 10:28 am
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